25th MARCH - LEE"S UPDATE - FINAL BETA RELEASED

[meduf]

How do you get to the character sketches?

Is the User Guide posted on the Web yet?

Thanks,
D

[meduf]

For some reason, I can view a video outside of Scrivener, but if I post it in the research folder, Adobe prompts that the Flash Player is out of date. Do you have a player within Scrivener? Adobe or other? I have restarted everything and still via Scrivener it thinks it is not installed. I used the version checker from Adobe and all is well there.

I added another video, youtube.com/watch?v=1OfsZyYPLoI and had the same problems, so it is not specific to that file.

I found the right click link to open Original URL in Browser. It is link meant to address this issue? It seems to have dealt with the problem.

Adobe Flash Player 10.2.153.1

Thanks,
D

[M.R]

Okay, so this’ll probably be long. Today has been a weird day. I started working on my “stuff” at 4 am (who said insomnia isn’t good for anything) and I’ve been working off and on all day. Usually, I don’t get put it through it’s paces until well after the release. So with the final version on its way (yahooo!) here’s my experience.

1. Lags when I highlight words and move the cursor around. This becomes more pounced the longer I use and clicking save doesn’t seem to help.

2. I’ve experienced weird spacing when I copy and paste.

3. The first paragraph pastes as single- I just highlight and reset but it would be nice is style is retained.

4. Copy with style, past with style doesn’t work. Maybe I’m using it wrong, but I’ve never had them work so I don’t see them as useful features. (Is there anyway to control the number of right click options?)

5. Lags when I use spell check from within the document. The menu takes while to pop up. I can avoid this by working in the spell checker, that said, it’s not really convenient as I like to work in scenes of 400 words. The box closes when I jump to a new scene I have to open it again. Over a span of 200 +/- scenes it really adds up. I’d love the box to stay open between scenes and an undo button would be supper awesome. I know control z but when I’m working in the box I have to close it out. Of course if the lag was less on right click I’d probably never use the box. But all that, I really just need to learn to spell better.

6. I’ve had some random bolding on this version. I run my character sheets like this:
   DOB: add text

Age: add text

When I start I knew character I copy and past because the template has the bold/plain text set up I want. When I past the plain text after the bolded text turns bold. Also, later, older sheets that I haven’t edited are bolded. I’ve had it pop up in the middle of lines. For them most part it retains the changes after I make them, but not always. Or in other words, aside from copy and paste, I haven’t seen a consistent reason why some wording turns bold and most doesn’t. I’ve been able to duplicate the problem but not in a consistent way.

7. Graphs- eeek! This is my least favorite tool, sorry. Setting up the graph’s aren’t the easiest. I can’t highlight a group of boxes and set their color. I have to set the color one at a time. I haven’t been able to copy and paste a graph and retain format so I’ve had to make them individually. Still, it’s nice to have all your stuff in scriv that I hate to make them in word unless I need something really complex.

I set it up this way:
Month
[ Graph]
blank space. (Rinse, repeat three times. )

So the spaces have disappeared, they aren’t retained after I hit enter and egads my data for October, (the bulk of the calendar and definition of tedium) was eaten.

I think this might be related to when I tried add the space, though it was there until I switched to a different screen and gone when I came back, so it might just be a random glitch. I haven’t lost anymore text, but the disappearing spaces between graphs happens consistently when working in dual screen mode, and I was able to create a funky graph by opening it in two different split screens, so I’d just call this feature glitchy.

And just a general question. Is there a way to set the tabs? I can’t seem to find this option.

I know you’ve worked so hard on this program. I really love it and haven’t had much trouble with it overall. Here is a link to some screen shots of the graphs and text.

samsanon.blogspot.com/2011/03/scriv-shots.html

Thanks for all your hard work.

M.R.

[gplauche]

I don’t know if this is a bug, but beta .2.1 doesn’t integrate well into Ubuntu 10.10’s Unity desktop. The title bar doesn’t merge with the top panel. The icon on the left sidebar-dock is blank and doesn’t have the “Keep in Launcher” option.

[StaceyUK]

BUG !: ODT missing from drop down compile menu. I first notices this in beta 020 and it’s still there in 021.

scriv odt missing by StaceyUK, on Flickr

BUG 2: Inspector displaying incorrect information. Showing information from a document not currently selected in the binder. Padlock in inspector is unlocked. Unfortunately I cannot reproduce this bug consistently as it only occurs intermittently.

Steps:

1. Open project.
2. Select item in binder.

Notes:

Occurs in session randomly and is not dependant on split screen being used. Noticed it since beta 020 but assumed it was human error until I noticed it straight away when I opened project. I have duplicated the project.scrivx file and deleted the old one as it reminded me of my earlier duplicate folder bug. Will make a note of the mismatch if it happens again in case it is not a project corruption issue.

scriv inspector by StaceyUK, on Flickr

[gplauche]

Another bug I noticed is that in full-screen view, the inspector icon brings up the inspector window on top as it should but the keyword icon brings up the keyword window in the background where it can’t be accessed. Also, it looks like the inspector in full-screen mode is launching too small; the status and label dropdown menus are scrunched up.

[StaceyUK]

Not sure this is a bug but something to consider when optimizing.

When I compile a document directly within Scrivenrer, the resulting file file size is 12mb. However, if I compile the same document as an RTF and then save as a PDF within open office the file size is 76kb. When I open the RTF and save as a PDF in Word 2007, the file size is similar to the one produced by direct compile.

Why the discrepancy in file sizes when producing the same document as a PDF? I can send you copies of the different PDFs if you need them.

[RobHamm]

@meduf

Does anyone have any suggestions about how to best get the research docs (web research say off of news media, cnn, bbc, other sources and info) that I want to copy off the web and into documents? I was copying the data off and dumping it into a Word doc followed by the URL, because there have been quite a few times where I have gone back to an article and it was no longer present, so I wanted to make sure I was not just linking to the doc, but possessing a copy of it to refer to later on

If you’re using Firefox, check out the Scrapbook extension. S’what I use. Or you can just do “save page as,” but Scrapbook helps keep saved pages organized outside of Scrivener, as well.

[LAP]

Incidentally, I uninstalled the previous version (via the Control Panel) before installing 021 but my previous settings have been retained (toolbar buttons, colour settings).

I’m not complaining but should that happen after an uninstall? Doesn’t it suggest some things weren’t uninstalled?

All the core system wide Scrivener registry settings would have been removed, all that will remain are any personal settings for Scrivener, we could remove these too, but decided to leave them just in case people decided to re-install again, it was more a convenience if the user decided to install again for whatever reason.

[LAP]

Good work… My only question is regarding header options when compiling; and when compiling to a PDF the margins appear to be only 1/2 inch.

Hi Kenny, what is your expected behaviour here?

[LAP]

It’s probably easier if I reply in bulk:

I have logged these from andygrunt:

1. Merge Bug Eats Text
2. Numbered List Bug
3. Will look at the 3 or 4 blank lines

By the way, since I’m such an enthusiast, I’ve already posted the news on my blog, in Spanish, as usually. Scrivener certainly has gotten the attention of a few readers, and I almost think they only get there to get news on this software.

Many thanks for this - a very interesting looking web site by the way

BUG, however: When I try to compile to .docx, it gives me an error that I need to have MS Word installed. I do. Compiling to .doc is no problem, however.

Silly question, but is this version of Word valid - i.e. it’s not an expired trial or anything like that?

BUG: When switching from Full-Screen to regular view (after having typed some in full-screen), the cursor returns to its pre-typing position in the regular view (what is that called, anyway, Edit View?)

Edit: This happens only if you move the cursor without typing, e.g. to work on another part of the text, then type. It does hold position if you start typing where you left off when switching from regular view to full-screen (then type) then back again. It does not work if you switch from regular view to full screen (move cursor, then type) then back.

Okay, we’ll look into this - thanks.

Lee, you asked us to post bugs here so here goes. When I open keywords the top of the bar is off screen so I’m unable to close it. Its the same type of problem that used to occur (now fixed) when the inspector was opened, except that used to make the bottom of Scrivener disappear off the bottom of the screen. I’ve attached a screen shot.

Logged thanks.

BUG: Delete key behaviour. When using keywords or document references pressing the delete key deletes a document in binder and places it into trash. Could this behaviour be changed so that the delete key affects the window you have just clicked in rather than the binder.

This could lead to work being accidently deleted if they don’t realise what is happening and they empty their trash. Most programs allow the delete key to work in all windows. It is standard behaviour to use the delete key to delete items.

You could have angry users is this behaviour is not changed, especially if they lose a lot of work.

BUG: Using the Open > In external editor command does not work. Open > In alternative editor doesn’t appear to work either.

BUG: Ghost Notes Mode

Even when this option is disabled, annotations and footnotes go ghost after a different area of the document in the editor. I currently therefore cannot switch the ghost feature off.

Behaviour:

1 View > Ghost Notes Mode deselected.
2 Nothing happens. Footnotes and annotations retain ghost formatting.
3 Clicking on annotation/footnote results in default formatting.

Both logged - the external editor should have worked, but it turns out we did not uncomment the code i.e. effectively turning it on. Thanks.

I’m running XP and went through the add/uninstall folder and uninstalled the three versions of Scrivener there. Then I had to go and unblock Scrivener before the install attempt. I then had to re-name Scrivener in order to get it to install. I’ve had to re-name the file every time for the last four (I think) installs of Scrivener. I told you about the other times and I’m telling you it happened again just in case you would like to know it. I have no ideas why it has me do that.

Angela, I know we had all sorts of issues getting Scrivener to run with your machine previously. Scrivener now allows both admin and non admin install, and has for a while. Permissions on your machine must be preventing this. Can you delete any of the previous Scrivener directories? Sounds like you can’t and certainly Scrivener would not have access to do so. Worst case, I could remote access into your machine and take a look myself - not sure how you’d feel about that - but happy to at some stage.

• I can’t get the Collections to allow moving items around, but maybe what you were very welcome in trying slipped through for next time there.

Logged. As far as the kerning goes, I need to spend some time looking at this to see if we can do anything? I’m not logging this as a bug but I will get back to you on it. My first thoughts are Scrivener is not a Final Draft tool, it does a pretty good job, but it purpose is really to assist the writer produce a draft. I think it does a reasonable job at producing a final draft, but you’re right it’s not Adobe InDesign, and never will be. It serves a very different function.

there is one crash that I haven’t seen fixed yet. If you click the very first document in the binder, then press and hold the down arrow key, Scrivener will crash when it gets to the end of the binder. Hope that makes sense.

Also, when exporting to docx, I still get a) the pop-up window saying ‘document export complete’ for every. single. document. It’s really annoying and ‘export complete’ at the end would be fine. And b) the exported documents still have the words running down a column on the left side …

Owch! Easy fixes - thanks

There is still a gentle problem with Project Statistics for me.

When I try to load it, it always freezes everything for a while - at least 10 / 15 seconds before it appears.

Then when it gets there and I click “options”, that comes up quickly, but it it freezes again for a long time if I try and click back to “Statistics” and once again everything is frozen (and sometimes the whole screen mists out - not always) for an equally long time.

There are about 60000 words in my manuscript and the computer I am using has an AMD quad core 2200MHz processor and 3GB of RAM

Thanks that helps.

BUG: I’m not sure what’s up with the Zip functionality for backups, but it doesn’t seem to be doing folders properly, resulting in 0 byte files with the same name as the folders within the zip (e.g., there’s both the folder named “My Project.scriv” and an empty file named “My Project.scriv”). This prevents Zip files from extracting properly without modifying the contents of the zip file, since the folders can’t overwrite the files.

Also, if it’s not too much to ask, it would be nice if the backup naming were changed to yyyy_mm_dd_HH_MM_SS (that’s 24-hour time) so that it sorts by name properly for easy archiving.

Thanks, but how are you performing backups with the 0 byte file size? I can’t duplicate this. The renaming is not a problem.

BTW–Is the Linux version going to have a built-in auto-update feature? If not (well, and really, even if it does), I was thinking it might be nice for us Linux folk if we had a repository–either on Lit&Lat’s servers or at say, SourceForge or Launchpad, and perhaps even try to get Scrivener into some of the official distro repositories–Especially now that Ubuntu’s software center has a section for paid software. Not that it’s difficult to install or anything, but it’d be nice to just install with software center, apt-get, and synaptic, and have it update whenever we run software updates.

Oh, and will there be a 64-bit compile?

Rob, auto-update feature will not work in Linux. I’ll need to write one from scratch and not use the 3rd party software we’re using currently, this is not going to happen prior to release. Bottom line is I need to do this anyway as the 3rd party software is pretty rubbish - i.e. DOS screen pop-ups etc. It all needs refining. Probably best we take all this offline; however, I’m happy to collaborate with the Linux crew to work out exactly what’s required as I’m not really across the detail on that platform for live updates. Feel free to drop me an email lee AT literature and latte DOT com and we can start to flesh this out a little.

We had a thread a while back on the Mac forums by someone who asserted that “Professional writers only write in white characters on a blue screen”, and so wanted the whole interface of Scrivener changed to that as otherwise it couldn’t be considered a serious, professional writing tool

Mental note to add to procrastination strategy: must study color theory (3 months at least) and get either Apple to produce blue extruded aluminium uni-body laptop or blue cover for my PC laptop. Must also write to Scrivener team and get them to change all icons in app to tint of blue, should really get Apple and Microsoft to do same. Buying blue tinted glasses would not likely fix issue so this is really a must have and tint is only likely to mess up existing colors and make me feel sick… If only I had this, I’d then be able to write my masterpiece because Blue is the overwhelming “favorite color.” Blue is seen as trustworthy, dependable and committed. The color of sky and the ocean, blue is perceived as a constant in our lives.

As the collective color of the spirit, it invokes rest and can cause the body to produce chemicals that are calming; however not all blues are serene and sedate. Electric or brilliant blues become dynamic and dramatic, an engaging color that expresses exhilaration.

Some shades or the overuse of blue may come across as cold or uncaring. Blue is the least “gender specific” color, having equal appeal to both men and women.

How the color blue affects us physically and mentally

• Calming and sedate
• Cooling
• Aids intuition

Doesn’t anyone read, why can’t these folks understand this, here look it’s all here: squidoo.com/colorexpert

Just read garpu’s link to the pirates of penzance and Robs cave man art analogy with blood of thine enemy - too good I think Mr Hamm might be brothers. I need to speak to my father again to see if he ever visited Lawrence, KS, U.S.A?

But first, I checked, and verifyI also have those zero-length files in parallel with each folder within the zip archives. They can be seen very easily with 7-zip, and they do prevent it from extracting any of the folders.

It’ll have to get fixed, but a workaround (and why I didn’t see this before) can be to use Windows Compressed Folders to double-click open and then drag-drop the backup Scrivener folder. It’s there by default I think from Windows XP on.

Now, the other issue about Backups is what’s on the dropdown menu for their location.

The default offered is C:\Program Files\Scrivener, which am sure is understood as a no-go.
Would think the actual default should be [My] Documents, depending on if Win7 or earlier, and trying to not get mixed up any more than that in concepts of Libraries .
Browsing for an alternate folder does work, but doesn’t stick. Seems good that the dropdown menu should gain the choices you’ve browsed to and saved in.
Also that this folders list for the menu should be per-project
It should then be easy to have the Backup location default to the last place you used on each project.
Icing on the cake could be a default preference folder for new Projects

Thanks narrsd - clearly an issue which we’ll look at - thanks.

Wow, I’m tired just reading this. You guys are awesome! And what commitment to your chores, Lee. Where are the pictures?

Well, that’s not included in the beta program, but it was kind of like this:http://photos.posh24.com/p/904978/z/russell_brand/russell_brand_underpants.jpg

To me, that is one of the things that has made the Scrivener community such a great community … no trolling (What never? No never. What NEVER? Well hardly ever!" ) no flaming, no rows … and a lot of fun; but at the same time people really doing all they can to help those in need.

Thanks Mark. Can you please explain trolling? I might have transgressed earlier in this post and need to know if I’m being appropriate? Seriously.

Highlights in PDFs block text; comments don’t appear

Thanks for detail here, we’ll look into this further,

1. When using the comic script screenplay template and compiling for Microsoft Word or RTF, the right indent (maybe the other term for this is right margin?) appears to be wrong after its imported in word. Scrivener has the right indent for “panel description” at 6 1/2 inches in the template, but word imports as a right indent of 7 inches. (I have word 2010 installed)

2. If you create a new text, type a line of text, then hit enter a bunch of times, to create a bunch of blank lines going to the bottom of the screen, you are now stuck editing the document with new lines at the very bottom, you can’t scroll down further in order to bring the text higher on the screen. This is not ideal for both aesthetic and practical reasons, the screenplay element selection or auto fill choices pop up on the bottom, and don’t have enough room to appear. To reproduce this, try hitting enter a bunch of times, go to the page number element, and the autofill box will pop up, likely the whole box won’t be displayed because its too far at the bottom of the screen to fit. If we could scroll down further than the text I think it might fix that issue…

3. Not sure if this is a bug or “feature not yet implemented” but if you import a document containing “ALL CAP” text font formatting from an rtf or word document, the all cap portions are not preserved, they import as mixed case.

4. Not sure if this is a bug or “feature not yet implemented” but “copy style” and “paste style” does not copy or paste styles which are set with the screenplay script settings.

My practical issue is that if I decide to change a screnplay format to add or remove “all caps” , there is no way to do this without retyping all lowercase dialogue to uppercase. Even pasting into word, changing the case, then copying and pasting back to Scriviner causes any all caps styling in word to be changed to lower case.

Anyway, this is a very exciting tool! I’m looking forward to writing some scripts with it.

Thank you. We’re look at all these points.

I’m sitting here running, of course, OS X on my 27" Quad core iMac (Not a pro because I travel with it and the Mac Pro is way too big for that.) This makes me brilliant according to the Mac user forums, but I also run Windows in VMware (I do still love PhotoImpact) and Linux in Parallels and that makes me, what? And all at the same time… Very brilliant but also Very idiotic or something according to the same forums!!! And of course, all the while bitching about the machine slowdown but assuring my wife that a WhisperStation with 4 Tesla Fermi GPUs running 448 cores X 4 would … and maybe I really need 24 main cores to aid her in balancing her checkbook…

Say no more. I already like you

I will address the remaining posts in another as this is getting quite long now.

Lee

[garpu]

Thanks Mark. Can you please explain trolling? I might have transgressed earlier in this post and need to know if I’m being appropriate? Seriously.

I think he was just trying to work in another Gilbert and Sullivan quote. (HMS Pinafore, I believe.)

[MaryRobinette]

I installed 2.1 and my novel project is now getting the error message that it is incompatible with this version of Scrivener. I uninstalled and reinstalled 2.1 and got the same message.

Other files open just fine.

I tried rolling back to an earlier version of the novel and am getting the same error message. I’m emailing you the file in case it is helpful.

[garpu]

Mary: a few users have found fixes here: https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/incompat-corrupted-project-files-user-workaround-fix/9315/4

and: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=10293&start=0

when you open version.txt, make sure you use notepad or a text editor (like vim or emacs or pico, God forbid) and not something like Word.

Maybe bug: ODT doesn’t show up as an option for me in either windows/wine or linux, and I’ve got both the linux versions and windows versions of Open Office and LibreOffice installed under both platforms. But I can export to doc under both.

[LAP]

I had to completely remove my research docs that were causing me to have crashes previously in order to Add a new doc in either research or draft. Otherwise the app would crash again. I had a test version that I was using while trying to determine which rtf file was killing the last version of Scrivener. So, even tho my latest, sort of repaired, doc does not cause the app to crash, I cannot add a new doc as long as it exists. That’s not good. Any ideas why?

Can you email me the offending research document so I can take a look at why this might occur. Without it, I really can’t do much as I have not encountered any issue like this?

Does anyone have any suggestions about how to best get the research docs (web research say off of news media, cnn, bbc, other sources and info) that I want to copy off the web and into documents? I was copying the data off and dumping it into a Word doc followed by the URL, because there have been quite a few times where I have gone back to an article and it was no longer present, so I wanted to make sure I was not just linking to the doc, but possessing a copy of it to refer to later on.

Personally, I drag and drop URLs into the Scrivener research area, this will make the editor act like a browser, so it will load the web page directly each time you view the research item. Where web pages change often this doesn’t help obviously, so you could either highlight the text in the web browser and paste it into Scrivener, or save the HTML file and import it. It will come through as standard text without the formatting, but at least you’ll have the content. Failing that, if reasonable perfect formatting of the HTML is a must, Scrivener can import Safari web archives, so if you wanted to download the Safari browser and save content as Web Archive, this would probably be your best option. We will be looking to improve support for web rendering moving forward; however, well be writing our own HTML parser for this as third party tools have proven in this beta process not to be up to scratch. We are probably 50% through that process now, but until we deliver ePub post release (free upgrade by the way), there are only work-arounds currently.

I had a half a dozen things I wanted to restest in this latest version, instead of creating tickets that may have resovled themselves in this release. I did close 4 of the 6 thus far, thank you very much for those corrections. I am not sure where I copied this from in the Tutorial, I will try to remember to make more info as to the location next time.

You can choose which columns appear by clicking on the button in the top-right of the outliner title bar, or via the View > Outliner Columns menu."

ok… I finally found the button. :O) I think a note that it is located above the right hand scroll bar in the column title area would help as I was looking IN the title bar where the grouping of Draft or Research is displayed. I am not sure if it was not present in 020 or not as I was looking right around the split buttons and don’t recall seeing that button. Anyway, I still cannot find the menu option under View > Outline Columns menu whether Outliner was active or not. I did not see the option listed but grayed either.

Looks like we missed turning on some menu’s. There should be a formatting bar menu as well that seems to have skipped town. We’’ look into these - thanks.

I found the following odd behavior when I started filling in a character sketch:

Likewise, we’ll look at these as well. Thank you.

Okay, there’s more post posts to go which I’ll will respond to in a day or so. For now, we need to get busy fixing as there’s 24 issues I’ve reported up until meduf’s comment on Flash player. Scrivener employs the use of Phonon and directX for video play back.

Lee

[narrsd]

Great comebacks on everybody’s everything, Lee - you are a good guy clearly, and I really liked the fantasy spin-off to the ozone on blue themes. By the way, the eye focuses roughly 10% differently in focal length on blue, so it actually drives your vision crazy with any time spent on a UI that uses it foreground or background for anything significant. Them apples courtesy an old Tektronix human factors team, once upon a time when Tektronix was a factor.

If it helps anyone on this question: for the purpose of pulling things off the web and into Scrivener, using Evernote as an intermediate can have good effects, besides that you then have an automatic cloud save, and automatic URL recording, titling, etc… Anything requiring actual screen shots you paste in the URL yourself, which rapidly becomes second nature – and ability for easy screen grabs is very useful, as not every webby thing formats nicely or is even visible off its page. EN even does optical recognition on their server and sends the text invisibly back, so when you come back and use the local search even off line, you can find on the text in the pictures. Actually slick. There is great tagging, and ability to split between any number of snippet streams. Evernote is free, with quite adequate monthly allowance, and by now is a quite stable, powerful, and easy to use arrangement.

As far as kerning and its tricky cousins, see in what i wrote that i’m agreeing with you, and just using InDesign as it can be a reference. My intent was just that you pick any low-hanging fruit (Apple addicts don’t get excited ). My xxtwoxx three thoughts were these:

1. take back down the extra font weight that appears to have crept into Scrivener’s own Compile to PDF, so that normal text is normal text on the resulting pdf – it’s not bold now, but some part-way state. This should be one-spot maneuver, as weight is simply the proportion of boldness/lightness parameter. Done.

As far as RTF, this is already fine. I dumped the RTF into InDesign, and then InDesign is doing its own kerning/tracking/leading. The result is as good as it gets, and will be to whatever level a version of Word etc. can do itself as well. So you are already there for this, for RTF. [correcting what I first wrote here]

2. The next thing is the screen, which is where I started noticing. A globby-for-old-screens-font like Verdana won’t show issues easily – it was designed to hide them, but is not necessarily very pretty on print or on various screen sizes. Calibri which comes with various MS things these days like OneNote is beautifully clear on screen, also by design, when you have modern ClearType etc. as Win or Adobe provides since XP times, and Calibri does have issues in Scrivener – that’s what I noticed.

Capital letters tending to separate from their word enough that you think you’ve got an extra space was what caught the eye. There is also un-evenness in long passages which catches up the eye. I am hoping it will be very simple to one-stop correct those too. Again, we are fully agreed in not vieing for typesetting tool results at all - just a nice screen, hoping it is easy to have like OneNote for example provides. Patience and understanding of course if something roadblocks having that just fall out of QT. But see the next 3) - persistence this evening may have illuminated a simple solution.

3. [had to edit this in] Well, the Compile for Print. This is where I am getting wide tracking (general letter spacing) in the results printing to Adobe Acrobat. This looks to occur particularly where there are not kerning pairs, thus the somewhat odd appearance of a paragraph of text. For example, I am looking at just the two words ‘Giving adventure’, and the a-d space is such that this phrase looks like one word, while the v-e is definitely kerned close. Blown up so I can see what it prints as.

This may point to the simplicity of just needing one-time setting of a tracking parameter for QT, since it looks like kerning itself is handled; thus quick fix.

And that it may be exactly the same problem as the item 2) screen look, thus a single tracking parameter in QT for both. Crossed fingers.

Ok, I probably lost my is-easy hat here somewhere around the room, but it is still actually there

Take care, Lee, and enjoying the spirit of it, I am.

Clive

[MalignantCarp]

@LAP

BUG: I’m not sure what’s up with the Zip functionality for backups, but it doesn’t seem to be doing folders properly, resulting in 0 byte files with the same name as the folders within the zip (e.g., there’s both the folder named “My Project.scriv” and an empty file named “My Project.scriv”). This prevents Zip files from extracting properly without modifying the contents of the zip file, since the folders can’t overwrite the files.

Also, if it’s not too much to ask, it would be nice if the backup naming were changed to yyyy_mm_dd_HH_MM_SS (that’s 24-hour time) so that it sorts by name properly for easy archiving.

Thanks, but how are you performing backups with the 0 byte file size? I can’t duplicate this. The renaming is not a problem.

Lee

I just run Backup and mark “Backup as ZIP.” Then if I load the resulting zip file in 7-zip, I get this:

The highlighted areas are the offending elements. I suspect other zip utilities might figure it out and extract the folders first, but Scrivener is the only program I know of that produces these bizarre zip files in the first place (at least, that I use on a regular basis). What is Scrivener using to zip the backups?

[MimeticMouton]

For reference, Lee, here’s a link to the thread describing this problem. There’s a link there to a note about it in Microsoft Support–SP2 solved the problem for Vista users, but there’s no mention on the MS forum about Windows 7. Anyway, that may help.

[amir]

Hi,

The punctuation marks not positioned correctly for Hebrew is still in 021.

Thanks for all the effort,
Amir

[amilcar]

I still can´t import PDF files on Windows Vista 64 bits. The error is described here: https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/cant-import-doc-files-beta-1-7-and-1-8-bug-logged/11586/1

Thanks,