For a lot of characteristics, the center of the bell curve distribution for women is in a different place from the center of the bell curve for men.
However, for those same characteristics, the difference between the two center points is much smaller than the difference between the maximum and minimum within either distribution.
This is trivially obvious if you talk about, say, height. The average man is taller than the average woman, but lots of women are taller than the average man and lots of men are shorter than the average woman.
Same thing for behavioral characteristics. Those are a lot harder to untangle from socialization, though, and most statistics published in the US and Europe are drawn from US/European populations. What can be said about âaverage American college studentsâ isnât necessarily true of âaverage humans.â
So itâs accurate to say that gender and behavior are correlated in a variety of ways, but itâs not at all accurate to say that âgender is behavioral destiny.â
I agree. However, the statement, â[t]he idea that gender implies behaviour is just sillyâ goes too far. I think gender does imply behavior, which an individual can easily dispel when observed.
Personally, I do not agree with any kind of discrimination. Biological sex is relevant in many social aspects, but not in the quality or âvalueâ of literary works.
Although I do not agree with the existence of any exclusive publishing house or literary prize for men, I can understand this message and claim. I, as a male writer in Spain, have encountered many awards and publishers in which they only accept womenâs manuscripts. If sexism is a problem, then it cannot be part of the solution.
Linguistic and human sciences, in general, are a female majority field. In Spain, most teaching and academic staff are women. How is it possible that so many professional women feel discriminated? I think that, above all, it is an ideological problem: Marxist cultural relativism has inoculated the victimism virus to the point that any person perceives themselves as âoppressedâ, even when the condition of âbeing a womanâ is fulfilled by more than half of the population.
Given that women are still fighting for rights as basic as bodily autonomy in large portions of the world, itâs a bit rich to claim that discrimination is non-existent or an âideological problem.â
Hello. I would like to jump right into the middle of this absurd thread and stir things around a bit because⊠I donât know⊠I have a personality disorder?
I asked the internet to give me some facts:
Q: What percentage of 20 year olds are transgender?
A: Under 0.2% (or less than 1 in 500)
Q: What percentage of 20 year olds are gay?
A: About 3% (or roughly 1 in 33)
Q: What percentage of 20 years olds hate cats?
A: About 15% (or roughly 1 in 7)
Q: What percentage of 20 year olds are stupid?
A: Estimates range from 20% - 30% (or 1 in 4ish)
The sources for this data (âthe internetâ) is a little unreliable and the names of the specific spots on the internet have a rapidly diminishing amount of words like âScientificâ âStatisticalâ and âStudyâ in the name the further down the list you go. However, taking them at face value⊠I have to sayâŠ
WHO CARES?!
We have bigger problems. So some dudes are effeminate. Who cares?! I think sales of beer and baseball caps are gonna be just fine.
Okay, the cat one sounds like we have a problem, but for the other ones⊠who cares?!
Do not commit a straw man. We do not talk about the world, but of Europe or Western countries. From my point of view, sexist discrimination is an almost non-existent problem in developed western countries. Today, feminism is a mainstream idealogy. From governments to the media: films, series and whatnot show pieces of feminist ideology. By definition, when an ideology is part of the system, it is a systemic ideology.
The striking thing is that the same individuals who continue to see and perceive sexist discrimination are usually the same that defend illegal and massive immigration of other individuals with antagonic cultures and religions to Western ones.
I am convinced that, before the end of the century, Europe will become an Islamic caliphate. The same women that consider sexist that a waiter serves them an orange soda (because they asked for a beer) are the ones who today defend the Islamic veil as something âempoweringâ and within a few years they will feel in their flesh the damage caused by their dogma of hate to their own culture and love to other cultures that do oppress women today.
I think before the end of the century all current major religions will have merged into one super-religion. All men will be forced to wear hats on top of their shoes because the jewish religion was allocated feet.
I met a woman once. She ordered lettuce in a restaurant but they gave her mayonnaise instead because she had blonde hair. She was furious until she realised that itâs what the ancient moomoo gods of Atlantis did as a sign of respect and their religion got the stomach. Sheâs a FTSE100 CEO now.
Total gibberish this whole thread. This is what you all sound like.
Think about it: If your main purpose in life is fighting something, the sudden lack of (or victory over) that something must be devastating. So, in a twisted sense, itâs logical to revive the old problems or create new ones in your field of expertise.
People are weird. One more reason to pursue interstellar travel. Letâs call the concept MOHFAA! Make Other Humans Far Away Again!
I congratulate everyone outside of the USA on their higher stages of enlightenment since, apparently this problem only exists here, for some reason. Oh, waitâŠyou said it was because of all the scary immigrants, huh? Itâs the immigrants that make us hate women. Not the centuries long practice of systemically limiting the rights of any community that threatens the straight, white, nationalist identities of long held patriarchal bodies.
Sorry, but you do realise that your immigrants are mainly Christians, and his are mainly Muslims? These are two pretty much different religions, and they create pretty much different context.
Also, heâs never said that the immigrants made anyone hate women. He only said that the immigrants bring their religion with them and keep it, they are not blending in. So the new society soon will be based on its norms, thatâs simple maths. Even now a politician can already say aloud things like: âIf you donât want other men to see your wife, then keep her locked at homeâ (when defending (!) the prohibition of full body coverings for Muslim women). He sees locking a woman at home as a valid solution in the XXI century.
As a woman, Iâm a bit worried about these people making decisions in Europe. I realise that under Islam my rights would be significantly less than they are now. Also, the USA is not a be all and end all.
And personally? I donât really care about a single-sex publisher, or whatever. Itâs not like there are no alternatives. If their books wonât sell, they will go out of business. If they will sell, good for them. Thatâs all.
@kewms: Warriors and Worriers by Joyce F. Benenson and Henry Markovits which I read recently goes into some detail about female style competition as compared and contrasted with male style competition. and how their idea of competition also varies. great book!
@pigfender: I transitioned from male to female and donât regret having made the choice, except for waiting too long. at the same time, I think that at this stage the majority of transitions (certainly the majority of gay-identified FTM transitions and lesbian-identified MTF transitions) have social contagion as a motivator. I donât know if the author agrees with me on this but the linked-to article talks about the growth in recent young adult and teen transitions, FTM in particular.
this will have a number of societal effects in the longterm, and not good ones. this will include backlash against transsexuals from the left as well as the right, the backlash on the right having started before that. (I acknowledge that conservatives have as a rule had a problem with transsexuality but their hatred has increased.)
Are you talking about medical transitions, or changing oneâs outward gender presentation? Because the idea that someone would undergo medical transition with all that entails because of âsocial contagionâ seems pretty ludicrous to me.
