# Adding AI tools to Scrivener **URL:** \ **Category:** Scrivener\ **Tags:** feedback, ai\ **Created:** [March 18, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222 "2023-03-18T17:10:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![pigfender](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/pigfender/32/41526_2.png) [@pigfender](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/pigfender)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/308 "2025-10-15T13:22:49Z")
> [@fto](#): > > That would imply that only idiots are attending this meeting. If that is the case, you should leave this company if you are not one yourself. Ha! This is both wrong in the inference and in the conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![fto](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@fto](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/fto)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/309 "2025-10-15T13:44:08Z")
> [@pigfender](#): > > This is both wrong No, it isn’t. But that’s just the first level of how communication works in large companies. You seem to know your stuff. Okay, let’s move on to level two. I know that you know that I know… but we’re all playing along. ---
**Author:** ![Melina](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Melina](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/Melina)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/310 "2025-10-15T15:05:16Z")
I truly hope Scrivener doesn’t add any AI features. They’re talking about paring down the app to take away distractions. Nothing is more distracting than AI. The only feature I wish they’d add is touchscreen scrolling. ---
**Author:** ![pigfender](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/pigfender/32/41526_2.png) [@pigfender](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/pigfender)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/311 "2025-10-15T15:14:39Z")
> [@fto](#): > > No, it isn’t. But that’s just the first level of how communication works in large companies. > > You seem to know your stuff. Okay, let’s move on to level two. I know that you know that I know… but we’re all playing along. That’s not in the least bit tru… You know what, I’m not going to get sucked into this one. Yes, you’re absolutely right. Thanks for picking me up on it. ---
**Author:** ![kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/kewms/32/15720_2.png) [@kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/kewms)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/312 "2025-10-15T16:31:28Z")
> [@pigfender](#): > > If interns just did what they were asked, AI would never have gotten considered by businesses, not even for a heartbeat. Well yes, it’s quite obvious that the primary “advantages” of AI are low cost and lack of autonomy. ---
**Author:** ![paulcoholic](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/paulcoholic/32/41205_2.png) [@paulcoholic](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/paulcoholic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/313 "2025-10-17T03:29:42Z")
![565137457_822526053856006_6097414763498285653_n](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/5/85b2f7deb4d0d4bc9b7a9abf76acbb4f6e6df859.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Shell](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/shell/32/17212_2.png) [@Shell](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/Shell)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/314 "2025-10-17T06:40:35Z")
Counter: The cost is vast, and they make up stuff randomly. ---
**Author:** ![kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/kewms/32/15720_2.png) [@kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/kewms)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/315 "2025-10-17T17:03:59Z")
No argument here. I expect they’ll be a lot less appealing once they start passing the costs on to users, rather than letting VCs subsidize them. ---
**Author:** ![SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/scn/32/37507_2.png) [@SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/SCN)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/316 "2025-10-17T17:58:45Z")
Just remember, we’re at the beginning of what’s coming. ---
**Author:** ![LoneDraft](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/lonedraft/32/36569_2.png) [@LoneDraft](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/LoneDraft)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/317 "2025-11-21T15:39:29Z")
I summarize what I suggested and I add new ideas for AI in Scrivener: - Crafting RegExp based on a purpose description (can be done on external tool easily) - Counting words frequency in a smarter way (sometimes no need for a report on some common word) - Tag (meta or copy in sub doc) **all dialogue lines by character** (deducing implicit attribution), so that we can explore the voice of each and check the words being used. - Get the big picture with a colorful map: parts rich in descriptions, rich in dialogues, in emotion or sensory, etc, and parts deprived of those. And pace, etc. I hope suggestions don’t get lost too much in the flow here _(did it become a general discussion on AI?)_ ---
**Author:** ![kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/kewms/32/15720_2.png) [@kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/kewms)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/318 "2025-11-21T17:28:58Z")
FWIW, since LLMs burst onto the scene, we’ve seen at least as many people saying they don’t want AI anywhere near their Scrivener projects as we have requests like this. Our position remains that the decision about whether to use AI tools at all, and which ones to adopt, is best left to individual users. Our most recent comment on AI is here: > **[Scrivener and AI: Why Do I See AI Prompts in My Scrivener Projects on Mac? -...](https://www.literatureandlatte.com/blog/scrivener-and-ai-why-do-i-see-ai-prompts-in-my-scrivener-projects-on-mac)** ---
**Author:** ![Shell](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/shell/32/17212_2.png) [@Shell](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/Shell)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/319 "2025-11-21T17:45:36Z")
I don’t speak for _everyone_ my writing community, but if AI tools were to be baked into Scrivener, I think many (most?) of our writers would walk away. I don’t say that lightly. It’s a hot topic on our busy wee Discord of known authors and new writers. ---
**Author:** ![LoneDraft](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/lonedraft/32/36569_2.png) [@LoneDraft](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/LoneDraft)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/320 "2025-11-21T18:42:43Z")
That stance is fine by me. Actually the features I mentionned, which aren’t generative AI, would be best provided by some external pluggin (to not add too much to Scrivener code). ---
**Author:** ![auxbuss](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/auxbuss/32/115_2.png) [@auxbuss](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/auxbuss)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/321 "2025-11-21T19:36:13Z")
The author of [this article](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/history-professor-ai-cheating-students_n_69178150e4b0781acfd62540) in HuffPost expressed a view I hold: > I don’t use AI for anything in my academic or personal life. I value almost nothing more than my ability to think and to freely express myself. Even when I make mistakes, at least they are my mistakes. It’s worth a read. ---
**Author:** ![LoneDraft](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/lonedraft/32/36569_2.png) [@LoneDraft](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/LoneDraft)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/322 "2025-11-21T21:49:06Z")
Will Teague (the professor). Using the idea of Trojan horse to trap the cheaters is great! I’ll remember that. However, he only speaks of generative AI, when just saying “AI”. Otherwise, first he would be wrong: he is already using one form of AI or another on a daily basis, even long before chatgpt, without knowing. And second, where does he draw the line? Like with a classic spell and grammar tool. To the extreme: Is he counting words by hands? Where ‘intelligence’ begin here? And, besides RegExp suggestions (not a human language), all my AI ideas for a writer’s tool are not generative. I guess his views don’t apply for this case. _(edit grammar)_ ---
**Author:** ![kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/kewms/32/15720_2.png) [@kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/kewms)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/323 "2025-11-21T22:01:49Z")
> [@LoneDraft](#): > > And, besides RegExp suggestions (not a human language), all my AI ideas for a writer’s tool are not generative. I guess his views don’t apply for this case. It would require pretty sophisticated natural language processing to identify “rich in description, etc” and to tag dialogue by character. These days, the leading edge of natural language processing is occupied by LLMs. ---
**Author:** ![LoneDraft](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/lonedraft/32/36569_2.png) [@LoneDraft](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/LoneDraft)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/324 "2025-11-21T22:18:47Z")
> [@kewms](#): > > It would require pretty sophisticated natural language processing to identify “rich in description, etc” and to tag dialogue by character. These days, the leading edge of natural language processing is occupied by LLMs. Easier done with GPT / LLM (as a starting point), yes, I guess. Especially if it’s about finding emotions (descriptions would be easier to detect with a classic algorithm). That said, its task wouldn’t be to spurt out words (generate human language). I see that closer to word counting. No fake creativity needed. No intrusion on that side. All doable by people with poor writing skills, given a bit of time to read, so it’s not like the common use of LLM. ---
**Author:** ![SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/scn/32/37507_2.png) [@SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/SCN)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/325 "2025-12-18T17:48:32Z")
> [@SCN](#): > > > [@kewms](#): > > > > Quantum computing is barely even where integrated circuits were in 1958, and the physics to make it work are fundamentally more difficult than for integrated circuits. > > I’m not so sure. I’ve just read an article where we’ve figured out how to add quantum bits to a chip where the qubits are at a distance, making them immensely more stable and practical. Even if we disregard the ability of qubits to explore all possibilities in a probabilistic manner free of linear time, let’s not discount that particle superposition gives us the ability to store information free of mere binary processing, as particle spin position can be zero to one, and in infinite range in between. Imagine the efficiency of processing in such a system. The power of LLMs will be nothing compared to where things are moving. I just watched a video that rather makes my point. Predicting the future is always a bit of gazing into a crystal ball, but this one resonates with my own thinking: ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/aNpVFovnZ-E/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/aNpVFovnZ-E?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque (Yes, I know, it’s definitely “out there.” Still, it’s worth watching.) ---
**Author:** ![SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/scn/32/37507_2.png) [@SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/SCN)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/326 "2025-12-18T17:54:33Z")
On the other hand… ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pDj1QhPOVBo/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/pDj1QhPOVBo?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/kewms/32/15720_2.png) [@kewms](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/kewms)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222/327 "2025-12-18T18:24:24Z")
> [@SCN](#): > > this one resonates with my own thinking: Confirmation bias is real! The ones that resonate are the ones that should be questioned the most rigorously. I won’t bore you with the rabbit hole I went down trying to check out Ms. McCoy’s credentials. I’ll just say that most consulting firms make their teams’ resumes a lot more visible. There’s a lot of sizzle, but I’m not seeing much steak. [Previous page](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/adding-ai-tools-to-scrivener/133222.md?page=17)