Depends. heavy kernels with large disk io load efforts… yes. optimized installs… no.
Stupid level of optimization is not using loadable modules and building the kernel with drivers installed (not an option for OSX/windows). you can fit an OS on a 1.4M floppy doing that, but the OS won’t do much.
The key is to not install things you don’t need. Much of what OS boot is doing is scanning hardware and disk looking to match drivers to installed hardware. They “heavy” part is scanning the disk for matching drivers. Linux is a bit more efficient than OSX/windows so it loads faster than either. You can reduce the load time for windows by removing unneeded drivers from the system. This will reduce the OS options, thereby reducing the disk IO durning boot up scans. That is the “big bang for effort” optimization that most folks can do easily. I find that USB2 compares to Firewire800 at about 1.25 speed. Meaning a 1minute f800 disk IO activity will be a 1.25minute on USB2. In my mind very livable.
Wouldn’t Mr. X still have the same encoding problems, though? I thought OSX and linux handle such things similarly. (Granted, we’re getting into a subject I know little about.)
To be honest, last time I’ve seen WINE on a mac was when my SO was trying to run a windows game on his old macbook pro. So…4 years ago. It could’ve gotten much better, but it caused a kernel panic then.
I’m not understanding why you’d want to run the Windows version of Scrivener under WINE (Crossover) on a Mac. Why not just use the native Mac version?
Anyway, I haven’t done that exact thing. But I did try the latest Crossover on my Linux Chromebook, and installed Scrivener for Windows on it. It did open and run fine, seemingly. But it was unable to save files where I wanted, so I got rid of it. To be specific, I was trying to save to my Dropbox folder (outside the Crossover/WINE bottle). I didn’t want to be copying files back and forth to the Dropbox folder manually, too much trouble. So I never even tried to save in the bottle. The permissions were fine, so I didn’t understand why it couldn’t save where I wanted? But I just punted and moved on.
Oh I am a Linux expert btw. I’ve been using it daily since 2000 and run multiple Linux cloud servers for clients. But it didn’t make sense to try too hard, when there was a beta for Linux.
The native Linux (beta) version actually seems to work well for me. I’m using the said Dropbox syncing to exchange projects with my Mac Mini running Mac OS X 10.9 without problems.
Special circumstances, Fred. I was, and will be collaborating with a friend over translations from Chinese to English — if you’re interested, see Short story translation — and it’s Chinese that is the problem. Qt, which is what LAP uses in programming the Windows/Linux version, uses one of the legal ways of addressing the upper areas of UTF-8, and X-Code, used by Keith for programming the Mac version, uses the other. Actually, the Mac can read both, but it saves in its version, and if a Scriv project that has been worked on on a Mac is opened on a Windows machine, the result is gibberish. So, as my late 2010 has only a 256GB SSID which is 75% full, I haven’t got the space for a Bootcamp installation of Windows, and I can’t really afford a Windows licence, leave aside the cost of VMWare or Parallels, so Crossover to the rescue.
For everything else, I use the Mac version … I’ve been using it since late 2006/early 2007 — I see I joined the forum in January 2007, so I was already using it then.
That must be a Linux matter, as using a WinXP bottle, I can navigate anywhere to save and open files — our joint project is actually in a shared Cubby. No problem at all there.
OK, that makes sense. I did not realize the two versions handled character sets differently, but that isn’t surprising, since they have to live in the environment where they are run. Good luck :mrgreen:
That would be me. But my setup has been hosed since… the 1.7 update, and the big WINE update that came immediately after. I have since lost track of the latter.
Basically, Scrivener comes up, but receives no inputs. So you are left either killing it with fire (kill -9) or having to reboot your box, depending on if it decides to hang or not.
Subsequent updates of WINE have made this hanging problem less of an issue, but it doesn’t encourage me to play around with it. The automatic upgrade won’t install. The manual upgrade won’t’ install… maybe because it’s WINE?
I should have asked for help sooner.
Yeah, I have a VM (open source variety VM manager) that won’t open a window bigger than 600x800 (or thereabouts) which is less than useful. I like some full screen for doing any editing, and most of the functionality just goes away.
So… is there something I can do? I’ve been halfway tempted to look at OSX emulation. But unless I can get my hands on VM software with more clue when it comes to screen allocation, I doubt there’s much of a point.
Hey, maybe I should try the actual linux version. The PDF reader never did work under WINE. I’m a garden variety linux user, though I have a long history. I have some systems skills, but my knowledge is uneven.
I have a Fedora 20 system running on x86 64. LXDE and KDE handle window management. Wine won’t tell me what it’s version is anymore. It’s called Wine Compholio? Really? They don’t even bother with numbers?
I’m sure Garpu or some of the other linux gurus will come along and help you out. If you’ve read this whole thread, you’ll know I’m the OP and run WINE in the form of CrossOver on a Mac. Although my family and friends think I’m a bit of a geek, I’m not geek enough to want to spend time working out how to install and set up WINE from the base. Although I have to pay a small subscription, CodeWeavers do that for me with CrossOver; it installs like a Mac app and automates setting up bottles and programs within them.
I’ve found using Windows Scrivener 1.6 and 1.7 in a winxp bottle perfectly stable, with only the limitations that are there in Windows Scrivener affecting me. My main problems with it are in fact the interface differences in menus and shortcuts, and no systemwide Chinese dictionary, which I have on my Mac. In fact over the last few months, I found I was using Scriv in a win7 bottle that I thought I had deleted and I have not found any problems.
That said, since the project I share with a Windows using friend is fairly long, fairly complex and has a deadline, I have forked it so I can do my redaction using Mac Scriv.
I’m using CrossOver 13.2, I think, which uses a very recent stable version of WINE but I’m not sure which one. There is a more recent update, but I’m in China at the moment, and I get download errors.
All that said, I’m sure you’ll be able to sort out running Scrivener under WINE, but i n your position I’d use the native Linux port. It seems it is a bit behind the Windows version always as LAP has to find time to make any necessary tweaks to compile it for Linux, while working hard to get the Windows version up to speed with the Mac version, but many have got it running well and are happy using it.
Re-opening this thread folks as something has come up …
Using Windows 1.8.6 under CrossOver 14.1.3, it seems that doing a project search for labels doesn’t find any — a long project in Chinese and English divided paragraph by paragraph, with each labelled appropriately — nothing comes up at all. It works fine on the Mac version.
