Apple Intelligence + Scrivener + new Writing App (coming)

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Because it’s annoying while still bad and a dead end for humanity once it becomes better? But yeah, why make a fuss. No biggie.

I agree and will follow your recommendation.

Awww, and I was just taking a seat to watch the crockery being thrown… :grin: :grin:

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I just found this thread, after discovering Apple Intelligence Writing Tools. Looks like a Scrivener update is forthcoming to support this … any rough idea on an ETA?

Lucky you, to have access to AI by now, most Europeans have not. The support for Germany has been announced for April next year, which does not yet say, it is supporting the German language by then. It could be, Apple is first roling out the other AI-Features and the language later in 2025.

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You can already use Apple Intelligence with Scrivener. When you install 15.1 (with US Region/Language) you’ll get a second Writing Tools menu under the Edit menu. Keith has said there will be an update to rename Scrivener’s Writing Tools menu option since Apple have stolen the name. No date - typically it will be whenever he announces it.

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Nice… I was looking in the context menu, thank you!

… checking now. It doesn’t look as full featured as, say, Notes. With Notes I could move to each suggestion and approve/decline one at a time. I wonder if the next update will add that.

Before you get too excited:

  1. Go into TextEdit.
  2. Copy and paste some text into the editor.
  3. Use Format ▸ Wrap to Window to make it switch to using the more powerful text engine that Scrivener uses.
  4. Select all the text and use the Proofread tool (which I presume you are referring to).

As for why the interface completely changes, who knows. :slight_smile:

Word wrap is a good tip. Cut and paste is such a hassle to get this few… I’ll wait for the software update

For the sake of clarity, I meant more to demonstrate that TextEdit, when set to use the same text engine as Scrivener, produces the same result that Scrivener does. Notes is using a different text engine, which has a different user interface for some reason.

I.e. don’t expect anything to fundamentally change in Scrivener, mainly only some clean-up of the menus. We don’t control the interface itself (it’s not very flexible, and what is supposed to be configurable doesn’t actually work that well—bugs I’m sure they will sort out in time).

I haven’t back-read the whole thread as of now, but I got the Apple Intelligence update installed for a specific purpose: I have a big manuscript going for a novel, one that I set down and pick up once in a while. By the time I get back to it with more ideas later, I’ve forgotten what’s going on in each chapter, and of course I hadn’t been updating my manual summaries. :joy_cat:

I started going through and manually using “Summarize” on each chapter, which wasn’t perfect, but it was enough to jog my memory. I would love-love-love to see this pop up as a feature in future Scrivener, just a box along with summary and notes on the sidebar that updates once in a while with a new Intelligence summary, if you turn it on.

You could install it on a VM on your Mac

It won’t work on a VM is my understanding. It will however work if you make a second volume on your Mac and install it there, then select which volume to boot when you turn it on (holding the power button down until the boot manager lads on an M series)

In the past, I have installed different macOSs on my VM to use as sandboxes and they worked with no problems. So why would the beta not work?

Running a current MacOS VM does not have all features, at least on the M series, unless you’re bypassing Apple’s controls in some manner. I’ve tried it on Parallels and VMWare

I have only done it on the Intel chip using Parallels.