Can Scrivener omit headers on some pages

I am using <$pageGroupParentTitle> in my headers to put chapter names at the top of pages.

The chapters all begin with an image page, and then a title page. Is there a way to get Scrivener to omit the headers on these pages? I see that they are omitted on blank pages.

Hi

If you have to, and don’t want to, adapt your binder structure or split documents, perhaps you could then consider simply deleting the unwanted header occurences at the very end in a third party app.

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Hi VV -

I’m thinking about the ‘Different headers following page break’ option. Unfortunately, my chapters include page breaks, but I’m wondering if it’s possible to restructure a bit, and use section breaks that actually cause a page break. Any thoughts on this?

Scrivener itself doesn’t have the option to insert section breaks.
So perhaps it’ll work. (If you can copy-paste it from Word or something. (?)) But if Scrivener see’s it as a page-break, then most likely it won’t work. You’ll get no header where you wanted one.

What I said about deleting the occurences you don’t want at the end of the process is how I would do it, personaly. I wouldn’t risk pasting foreign stuff in my project. You never know what you’ll get for a result. Might look fine, but then you discover it messed up something else further down. :man_shrugging:

Tha Manual has various options I can try (suppress headers after page breaks, on single pages), but my chapters have both of these. Ideally I’d like a <"$Suppress_Page_Header”> placeholder.

You could make you chapter title page be a document/file of its own. (It’ll be single paged, and voilà.) [Assuming that this is your current setup, single page = no header.]

They already are single pages. But there are other single pages within the chapter too, that need the headers. I guess I could combine them. Or - as I mentioned above - separate them as sections somehow.

Ha! Here’s a way to do this:

  • Put the pages you want to have no headers in their own chapter folder. Make the title of this folder “ “ (without the quotes -ie a couple of blank spaces).
  • Scrivener’s <$pageGroupParentTitle> placeholder then generates blank spaces as the header - ie no header!

This messes up the logic of the binder a little. But you can avoid having a lot of chapter folders with no titles by placing them as the last items in the previous chapter.

It’s not ideal, but it gets the job done, as far as I can see so far, with no hidden side-effects.

Or indeed as the first item in the chapter folder. I prefer it in the previous chapter because it presents better in Outline view, that I use a lot.

And btw, the title of this folder needs the spaces because if it is empty, <$pageGroupParentTitle> puts the project’s short title in the header field. Trying to be helpful, perhaps, but I’d call that a bug.

If Scrivener is designed and coded to do that, it’s not a bug but a feature, just a feature that gets in the way of what you are trying to do, so you have to find a work-around
 your two spaces.

There are almot certainly other users who are happy that Scrivener works the way it does.

:slight_smile:
Mark

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Sure. :slightly_smiling_face:

and a few more words to get to the 20 chars minimum

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If you combined the chapter page and image as one and made a single page then you could check this box (below) to maybe get what you want.

You could create a section Layout for the “single page” section type (or even use chapters). The single page could look like this

Easy to try a sample compile collection with the first chapter mockup and see if checking box removes headers.

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Trouble is that my chapters include several other single pages that need the page heading. So this is not a good work-round for me.

Sorry to hear. Maybe someone else will offer a solution, or I don’t use it but Atticus has a lot of compile flexibility.