Compile driving me nuts

and last but not least, example of the cover i wish to get rid of

The workaround for Kindle Gen in Scrivener 2 is to compile to ePub format and then open the result in Kindle Previewer. Which is essentially what Scrivener does anyway.

Katherine

Are these screenshots from the PDF version or the Kindle version?

Katherine

These screenshots are from the kindle version

The workaround for Kindle Gen in Scrivener 2 is to compile to ePub format and then open the result in Kindle Previewer. Which is essentially what Scrivener does anyway.

Now that I have updated the manuscript and made changes in Scrivener 3 I can no longer open in Scrivener 2. In any case, I suspect I already tried to do this but I could not send the file to my kindle like I used to do. What I have always done with my ebook is email it to mine and agent’s and editors’ kindles. It used to be so simple.

Have watched the videos on You Tube twice and am getting around some of my problems but still major problem is page breaks between documents/ i.e. scenes. The kindle version of Compile on Scrivener 3 has no alternative option

You’re on a Mac according to your profile; you SHOULD be able to export your project to Scrivener 2 format so you can open it (with changes) in the older version of Scrivener. Note that you’ll probably have to adjust your compilation details, etc.

Thank you but seriously, I shouldn’t have to do this. I have paid to upgrade. I have spent 12 hours adjusting my compile to the new one. Now I would have to change settings back to old one? This is all so wrong. Scrivener should be providing proper live, remote support to help long term paying customers to make the transition. Especially when it is such basic things as trying to stop page breaks in a kindle compile. I love Scrivener but I can’t go back now that I have made a day’s worth of changes. I just need to get a good kindle version off to the agent before it’s too late. I’m really at my wits end. All the other things I am working out but I can’t work out how to stop kindle compile from putting page breaks between every scene/document to have a simple line break between scenes. This is a 230 page book. It’s a fairly normal requirement I dont know why I can’t work it out

Have you opened a support ticket? If not, you can do so here:
literatureandlatte.com/contact-us

I’m sorry that you’ve run into this with a deadline looming. I know how frustrating that can be.

The cover is defined from the main Compile screen. Click the “Cover” icon above the right hand pane, which is the fifth from the left.

The hash marks between scenes are coming from the Separators pane in the Compile format. Right click on the Compile Format that you’re using, and choose the Edit (or Duplicate and Edit) option. Then select the Separators panel.

The page padding for a section is defined in the New Pages tab of the Section Layout editor. While still in the Compile Format editor, choose the Section Layouts tab, then select the relevant layout from the list in the middle, and then the New Pages tab.

Katherine

katherine thank you so much! i didn’t know there were support tickets avail to open. thank you so much for this link

Frustrating Cover Mystery solved thanks to you!

Other two mysteries solved too thanks to your replies.

You have now helped me solve my most pressing Compile confusions for PDF. I do have some other niggles with the system but they are not as urgent. Am going to try to apply them all to Kindle now. Thank you again. I will be back no doubt but hopefully this will help me make the extended deadline at least

Question about Cover in Compile.

I have to delete the Cover Image option every single time I compile. Is this normal? Can’t I make this a customised choice?

Scrivener is saving the “no cover” option for me.

To explicitly save your Compile settings without actually compiling, hold the Option key, which will turn the “Compile” button into a “Save” button.

Katherine

Afraid to say that didn’t work. I pressed option key and save button which the compile button turned into and next time i opened the compile i had to delete the cover image again

I am still having issues with Compile…though I am getting there slowly. Please can you explain to me (this is quite URGENT) as the deadline is midnight tonight for one competition which only wants the first 5,000 words of my manuscipt and one competition which wants first 4 chapters.

How can I avoid going through and checking/ unchecking all the boxes in the compile to INCLUDE?

Is there are way of compiling
1 first 5000 words
2 first 4 chapters
Without having to check and uncheck boxes all one by one? Please help
Many thanks
Rebecca

Hi Rebecca,

The list of documents in the Compile dialogue respects the normal Mac conventions, so you can turn on/off multiple items at once.

In this case I’d suggest:

  1. Click inside the Documents panel (the one with the tickboxes) and press cmd-a. This will highlight every document in the panel.

  2. Right click and select ‘Include in Compile’ (it’s a toggle, so if the item is ticked it turns it off, and vice-versa). This will clear the existing ticks.

  3. Click and hold on the top document, then drag the mouse down till it reaches the last of the documents you want to include this time — your selection will be highlighted.

  4. Right click again inside the highlight and choose ‘Include in Compile’.

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That’s it… Takes much longer to describe than to do!

There’s no quick way of printing out the first 5000 words as far as I know — though you can of course simply count the words and manually split the relevant chapter just for the compilation, then merge it again afterwards.

Gee Brookter! That was so quick. I really appreciate your reply. Haven’t done it yet but it sounds easy peasy. Hopefully this will help another luddite like me! :slight_smile:

Ok gosh not as simple as i thought. My manuscript in its entirety has over seventy scenes. When I compile that for my kindle I compile most of them but there are several scenes I dont include (see screenshot). To give the comp and the agent a 5,000 version and a 10,000 word version by midnight I need to do as you say.

But is there a way of saving the manuscript version (i.e. 66,800 words included) and not have to do that manually? Isn’t there a way of saving that particular version of my compile

Eg. so that I have a First Three chapters compile, a first four chapters compile, an entire novel excluding unfinished scenes compile etc?

Glad the quick and dirty fix helped!

For the longer term, yes, you can have different versions of compile with different documents. Basically, you mark the documents you want to exclude in the binder, then filter them out in compile[1]. You could use the ‘Include in compile/Exclude in Compile’ tickboxes for that, but that would mean ticking /unticking each time. Instead, you’ll mark the difference some other way.

Say you have two ‘Versions’ - “FULL” with all the documents and “SMALL” with only a subset.

What you have to do is create some way of differentiating between the two type of documents and then filter on them in Compile.

  1. Documents which will be INCLUDED IN FULL
  2. Documents which will be EXCLUDED IN FULL.

I’m going to use statuses in this example, but you can equally use labels or any other metadata.

  1. First I’ve created a new status called EXCLUDED IN FULL (again, the name doesn’t matter, I’ve just used it for clarity.)

  2. Then I’ve given the status EXCLUDED IN FULL to those documents which won’t be in the ‘Small’ compile (obviously!) (Here, I’ve excluded all the documents in the Inspector folder, but I want to print all the rest. (You can do this in one go by selecting them in the binder and right clicking > Status.)

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  1. Then I’ve opened the compile dialogue. You’ll see that as normal, all the documents in the binder, including the EXCLUDED IN FULL ones are still selected in the document panel.

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  1. Now I’ve clicked on the little funnel item to the right of the compile: drop down list, and chosen the options you can see in the screenshot:

Compile: Included Documents. (I.e. you want to choose from the normal range of documents)
Apply Filter: ticked, with the 3 dropdown boxes showing;

  1. EXCLUDE (you’re filtering out the unwanted documents)
  2. Documents with Status:
  3. EXCLUDE FROM SMALL.

As you choose the options, you’ll see that the document list behind you changes to reflect your choices, (the Inspect folder and contents has disappeared) until it looks like this:

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You can then compile in the normal way, and it will only produce the ‘SMALL’ version.

Next time you come to compile, your filter settings should have been retained (you can tell this because the filter icon will be blue. To compile ‘FULL’, all you need to do is click on the funnel and untick the Apply Filter box and the EXCLUDED FROM FULL documents will be back in the document list.

I hope this makes sense – as you can see, you can get some very flexible responses with this, but I think it will do what you want to do fairly simply.

[1] Of course, it doesn’t matter whether you choose to mark the files which will be excluded (and you use the ‘Exclude’ filter option) or which will be included (and you use the ‘Include’ filter option). Go with the one which means marking the fewest documents!

Brookter! You are the ant’s pants the bee’s knees and all insect body parts in between.
Thank you.
I love Scrivener once again and have tweeted exactly how much I do!
This was so helpful for me
This week I am submitting to several comps and agents.
Watch this space!