Compile help, please

Please could someone point me in the right direction for a compile tutorial? I would like the compile to reproduce exactly what I have created in my chapters and scenes, including Calibri font (12 for text and 10 for notes). The only additional input I would like the compile to create is to reproduce the chapter headings. Using the built-in Manuscript format, despite its saying that the main text will be reproduced as it appears in the main text, the compile is converting italic text to plain text, which I don’t want. When I create an editable format based on the Scrivener one, I cannot see a setting that might account for the conversion of italics to regular.

Many thanks

Hi.
I’ve seen this before.
I vaguely remember someone had this issue in the past. (A year ago, more or less, more than less, I think.)
I have no idea what the outcome was, but you should definitely dig the forum for this specific thread.

Otherwise no, I don’t believe there is a setting anywhere that is intended to removes italics at compile.
This is as close as it gets as far as I can tell :
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One thing to do in the mean time would be to compile using other compile formats, and see if you get the same result. That would narrow the range of possible explanations.
You should also compile to other output formats than whichever the one format you are currently compiling to. (And perhaps let us know which format it actually is.)

Question:
Did you use styles (one or many) throughout or partially, in your documents ?
That could be the beginning of an explanation.

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That was my immediate reaction. Have you set up a “Body/Normal” style for the bulk of your text? If so, such problems are the result.

Mark

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Right.
I thought of it last, but it should’ve came up first.

Hello Vincent. Thanks so much for the reply. Yes, I do use three pre-defined styles: rrr-heading, rrr-text, rrr-lyric. The italics are created within the rrr-text style. In other words, I will apply the style to a block of text and then modify certain parts of the text to be italic. The other styles are italic free. I use styles because that is how I want my writing to look. When I look at it in the editor, it is exactly how I want it. I have assumed (always a bad idea, I suppose) that the compile process will reproduce what I have written.

To answer your other query, I have compiled both to Word and to PDF, with the same result.

Yes, ok, the issue is with the style you used to format your body text.
That is not how it is supposed to be done.
(You should check the manual on “Default Formatting”.)

Meanwhile, here is a quick fix.
→ Backup your project first ←
[EDIT] Read the whole post before doing anything, there is an alternative solution at the bottom. (You should try this second fix first.)

Select part of your text (within a single paragraph) that has both plain text and a segment in italics.
(I think you have to select a segment that encloses the italics. That starts and ends with plain text. Normal-italics-normal. Else: it might make everything italic – I’m not sure, but might as well
)

Then, redefine your style from this text selection.
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Change nothing, just click ok in the style’s config popup.

If I am not mistaken, that should fix your issue.


[EDIT] Alternatively, — and again I don’t know why I didn’t think of it first —, it should be enough to simply make your style as follow :
(Same thing : select a chunk of text of the concerned style (this time it doesn’t matter if you select italic text as well or not), and redefining the said style,)

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Someone please confirm or refute – I am obviously glitchy today.

As I see it, and have said in other posts, doing that is simply to create a style that does nothiing more than mimic the default style under a different name. It will solve the problem, but just setting the default style in Options (or in Project → Project Settings
 → Formatting for that project only) and using “No Style” is safer in the long run. The only use for a style like “rrr-text” would be if you were compiling to a destination that required such style titles. Unlike “No Style”, those paragraphs won’t be compiled into the Body/Normal style DOCX expects for the bulk of the text.

Mark

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I agree completely.
In the current case: nothing but a quick fix.

And yes, the op would only win by learning on the matter of no style / default formatting.

To Mark and Vincent: You have been really helpful. Thank you. As you can see I am new to Scrivener. The fix suggested does retain the italics. However, there are too many other problems (e.g. notes appearing as double-spaced even though they are formatted as single-spaced [they are No Style], lots of widows and orphans, seemingly random hash symbols etc). It will be quicker for me to take the exported RTF files, put them into Word, and create the document I need from there. This will allow me time to learn Scrivener such that I can achieve a compile that reflects what I want. It seems to me that I need a comprehensive understanding of the compile process before creating text, so that the entered text is in a condition which can be handled sensibly by that process. . Any links to tutorials (paid or free) would be very helpful. Many thanks, again.

Not really. The single biggest thing to know before creating text is that you shouldn’t use a body Style. Other than that, the whole point is that writing and formatting are separate tasks and are best handled separately.

We have a library of video tutorials here: Videos | Literature & Latte

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Wonderful. Thank you. I shall dive into the tutorials.

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Oh, and to your other questions.

Single-spaced rather than double-spaced would be a function of the Section Layout you’re using.

Hash symbols are probably coming from the Separators settings in the Compile Format.

If you just want to get the text out of Scrivener and into another tool, the Default Compile Format is often the fastest and easiest way to do that.

You are doing the right thing.