Keith Blount is the originator of Scrivener. It would not exist if it were not for him. You can read about the team here https://www.literatureandlatte.com/about-us
My thoughts on this discussion are too many, so I “resume”.
- I bought an iPad Pro this year, because I couldn’t afford to buy a decent MacBook Pro (I’m still using my 2009 with El Captain – and Scrivener 2, because the 3 cannot run on it. My guess? The next won’t be a MBP).
- iPadOS version is very limited for someone like me: a professional novelist. That’s why I’m raising my savings to buy a used MacBook Pro or a new MacMini: I need to write on a greater screen. And yes, definitely Scrivener for MacOS has no rivals, and I won’t leave it unless you cut my typing fingers!
- All these struggles, I guess, are mostly a hardware-money-matter. Apple has gradually raised its prices again since 2010. To have a comparable MacBook Pro as the one I bought in 2009 – top of the list – I need to spend twice or more. It’s not galloping inflation, they raised them back to elite shoppers. If I can think to spend $2,000 for a computer, I cannot think about $4,000: my brain starts to meltdown as the smartphone with a computer processor. And the 2K configurations make me think of a MacMini with a new, great Monitor. Full stop. I don’t need all that power around. If I want to write outside, it means I can use the iOS version. The editing phase cannot be done in a bar – I cannot, too many distractions.
- Even if it would be possible to have all the Mac features in iOS, where are you going to put them on the screen? The iPad is another thing.
- Still it would be worth to introduce some specific, not so complex things, like a customizable colors editor (text and background). But I remember discussions about a dark mode… So maybe it’s not so simple. Shutting my mouth up.
- All I want is Scrivener continues to exist, because software like Ulysses are not comparable. I’m using Scrivener with AeonTimeline2 in a very advanced way, and I will soon show how I’m working on my sagas to my readers (multiple novels writing). My thing is not possible anywhere else. I’ll buy a new Mac: I just have to wait some time and save. My 2009 MBP still exists and kicks some asses out there (even if selecting a full novel Scrivenings with all its notes takes his 30 seconds, LOL).
So, first things first. I wish good work to whom is coding, to take care of Windows cousins first, and follow the planned route. No problem with that.
Who created Scrivener will have my gratitude forever.
All the best to you all, stay safe, take care.
Apple haven’t ‘raised’ their prices. Yes there have been some increases as performance/specs increase and in countries such as Aus, increases as currency has fluctuated. If you look st the 13” MBA there have actually been some price decreases. And there have been significant performance increases, in some cases without price increase. A equiv spec MacBook to your 2009 unit with its core 2 duo CPU doesn’t exist - there’s nothing that low in performance. If I remember, max RAM was 8G, 256gb spinner, 1440x900 screen…well below a current minimum spec and released price was $US2599 which gets you a 16” with 512gb ssd, 16gb RAM, much higher resolution screen and a 6 core processor today many times more capable, so not sure where the ‘double the price’ comes from. Yes, you can spec it up to twice the price, but thats a top spec 8 core, 64gb RAM, 2tb ssd, top video card, a far more capable unit.
For those on a budget MBA and Mini offer good performance and with an external monitor MBA offers portability plus a reasonable desktop performance, which based on your stated needs, seems to fit the bill.
Personally I’m hanging for a 13” Apple Silicon device to be more portable than the 16” for the lesser needs roles such as Scrivener.
To be honest, if everything goes to plan with Scrivener, this wonderful writing app will single-handedly cause me to switch back to macOS.
Thanks for the explanation KB, really appreciate your hard work. Keep it up!
Will Scrivener for Mac be recompiled for ARM? I will definitely get an ARM MBP once it drops.
I’ve found that my iPad expectations were pretty unrealistic. Thanks to everyone here for the reality check.
Here’s another place where the iPad/Mac relationship is discussed.
talk.macpowerusers.com/t/is-the … o/18759/73
Back in 2009 my MacBook Pro was the top of the available MacBook Pro sold by Apple.
Now, I payed it 2,160€. How much the top of the available MacBook Pro costs now? We can go up to the sky, so let’s say more than double to be fair and consider their catalog is wider, today.
Let’s be serious and take in account “inflation”. You don’t believe me, maybe. So, let’s take a look at some maths, avoiding opinions.
https://www.in2013dollars.com/europe/inflation/2009?amount=2160
Here it is how much my 2,160€ spent in 2009 are worth today: 2,490€. With 2,490€ I am very far away from the top available MacBook Pro in 2020. Yes?
Let’s even consider that mine was a 15" MacBook Pro. So look at the prices of the later 15", before they vanished in favour of 13"/17" duopoly. Configurations can easily raise over 4,000€, You don’t want to take a look at that? Fine, so let’s take a look at the top configuration of a 13" (that means best processor and maximum available RAM; I leave the HD to the smallest): 3,129€. That is 630€ more (that’s 25% more the inflation-updated value of my 2009 money). And it’s a 13".
Apple, has raised their prices not following inflation, but following its success. And it’s undeniable, in my opinion.
Simply speaking, just to go back to real life of common humanity, what in 2009 cost me one salary, today will cost me two. As simple as that.
Sorry for the OT to everybody.
You shouldn’t compare your 2009 Mac Pro to the top available 2020 Mac Pro. You should compare it to a 2020 system that offers comparable performance. If the top 2009 system were equivalent to the top 2020 system, why would you upgrade at all?
Katherine
Yes, but following that same logic, the performance of today’s bottom of the line MacBook Pro is multiple times greater than the top 2009 model, so in terms of performance per $, prices have crashed… What in 2009 cost you one salary(in performance) now costs you ¼ salary.
You can’t seriously say, ‘Apple give me a computer that is lighter, performs 3-4 times faster, has 16 times as much, much faster and more rugged storage, 4 times as much and faster, lower power RAM, three times the screen resolution, but you’re not allowed to charge me any more than I paid for the 11 year old, by comparison slow clunker.’
I might add, you can run the same comparison with Dell (another reputable brand) and get exactly the same result.
Yes, I can. As you can seriously say the opposite. 
That was an article of 2018 on the Washington Post – who knows, maybe they are android fanboys, and not analysts and journalists; that’s even possible, as I’m not a US citizen and these things are tricky to understand. (Below the link.) Apple justified such a raise in the prices with facts like the introduction of the FaceID - a technology already present on the market and not included on MacBook Pro of this year yet (which they made better than others, but it wasn’t pure innovation).
So, yes: I’m talking seriously.
The fact is everybody is putting faster hardware (even faster than Apple, and you know it), but not everybody is raising their prices at the same rate as Apple (maybe just Samsung: who knows why?). And their innovation isn’t always top of the notch respect to the competence – such the wonderful reinvention of the keyboard; it was better to give us a piece of wood with the picture of the keys.
All that, even if it can sound unbelievable, comes from a faithful Apple user’s as I am.
I love their software, but I’ve not been raised as if I was blind.
A small note: don’t consider hardware without software. Apple has best integration between the two; that is what I (am happy to) pay for.
In any case, this thread is not the place to talk about Apple’s pricing strategy XD.
You can use statistics to ‘prove’ most any preconceived idea. Note, the 13” MacBook Pro disproves your ‘proof’ - no change despite massive increase in performance. There are also several fatal errors in the whole premise of the graphs, however I’m not about to write a whole page screed on statistical analysis.
I could address every line in the graph, including the fact that all MacBook Air competitors initially struggled to match performance/price and their prices only came down over time as volumes increased amid major price support from Intel.
I stand by my original response.
Fine. Mine is not preconceived, anyway. As said, I’m not someone who doesn’t rely on Apple.
It seems you think I’m a kind of a troll, but I own and use Apple products — and I’m not willing to change that.
That said, now that new machines with M1 CPUs are out and I saw the prices going sensibly down, I can see they are willing to keep prices down.
So, possibly I was completely wrong on the above thoughts.