Grammarly

[xiamenese]

That Australian licenses it for students doesn’t mean “most universities use it”, nor does the fact that the people you talk to use it mean that nearly everyone uses it,

I can understand that some people, particularly non-native English speakers, will benefit from using something like that. And you’re right, it seems that good proof-readers are a dying breed these days.

However, as nothing but a (long-term) user, I can only say that if it were straightforward to implement KB and the team will have been looking at it; and if Grammarly, why not ProWriting Aid, and Antidote for French and whatever for German, Spanish, Italian, Swedish, Riussian …

Mark

[krastev]

@cherbaree

Yes, they do. In Australia many universities have licensed it for students, my university doesn’t but I have purchased it. Many Authors (self-publishing) that I converse with also use it. It has over 20 million users per day. It’s not a small fly by night program. It is particularly useful for those international writers that don’t have as good a grasp on English as they might their own language i.e. international students and writers. To just say “No they don’t” without justifying it is ridiculous. It achieves nothing. As a mature age student and writer, I am fully aware of the dangers of plagiarism, Grammarly is a fantastic program, If you are going to offer writing software, enable it for university thesis work, then you should enable Grammarly in it, if not you reduce your viability of use. Once again it is the same for writing books and plagiarism. I have no issue with you or anybody disagreeing with me, but if you are going to do that then I suggest you back it up with cold hard facts. As with Grammarly, I would suggest that Endnote is supported for cite as you write, not just temporary placement holders.

That’s your personal observation. It doesn’t make it a fact.

[DavidR]

@cherbaree

Yes, they do. In Australia many universities have licensed it for students, my university doesn’t but I have purchased it. Many Authors (self-publishing) that I converse with also use it. It has over 20 million users per day. It’s not a small fly by night program. It is particularly useful for those international writers that don’t have as good a grasp on English as they might their own language i.e. international students and writers. To just say “No they don’t” without justifying it is ridiculous. It achieves nothing. As a mature age student and writer, I am fully aware of the dangers of plagiarism, Grammarly is a fantastic program, If you are going to offer writing software, enable it for university thesis work, then you should enable Grammarly in it, if not you reduce your viability of use. Once again it is the same for writing books and plagiarism. I have no issue with you or anybody disagreeing with me, but if you are going to do that then I suggest you back it up with cold hard facts. As with Grammarly, I would suggest that Endnote is supported for cite as you write, not just temporary placement holders.

Without regard to how many users and where, I can certainly see its usefulness for non-native speakers and writers of English. I can also see its usefulness for students–as a retired professor, I can imagine recommending it to more than a few of my students back in the day. And yet… I know this will sound snobby or arrogant, but for a native English speaker who writes in the language professionally, I can’t help asking , how is this better than actually learning your own language before you write in it? The only use I can think of for Grammarly for such a writer is for them to learn from it what they did not learn from their teachers, or just from reading, until they don’t need to use it anymore.

[Would Grammarly have flagged that last sentence for pronoun/antecedent inconsistency? I intentionally use the colloquial “singular they” for gender inclusivity, and would find Grammarly annoying if it bugged me about it.]

I am intrigued about the plagiarism. You mean it alerts you that you have just plagiarized something? How in heaven’s name would you not already know that? Or does it help you massage borrowed text until it is arguably not plagiarized anymore? Or is it usable by professors and editors to spot plagiarism in writing submitted to them? That I could have used when I was still grading. I never failed to spot the stuff (what can be stolen online can be busted online), but it would have saved me a lot of time.

[lunk]

@cherbaree

As with Grammarly, I would suggest that Endnote is supported for cite as you write, not just temporary placement holders.

That belongs in the Wish List, not inTechnical Support.