I’m drawing close to the end of a lengthy project (business plan) whose delivery deadline is Monday. The text is finished but since I upgraded to the latest versions of Scrivener on MacOS and iOS my section titles are no longer being iadded above their sections when I compile. (By this I mean the titles of the ”cards” on the corkboard).
Can anybody help me get them back? I’m absolutely desperate.
When compiling, you need to make sure that the document types are instructed to compile both the heading and the body text.
One thing to check is if the layout assigned to the section type includes a heading. In the sample below, all of the regular text files have been instructed to compile with headings.
This may or may not be your issue. It would help to know the format you are compiling to and what type of files/folders are failing to compile as needed. A screen grab of the compile contents might also help.
Hello, thank you for your reply.
That is how my Compile settings looks like, and I haven’t changed anything about Formatting (explicitly) of my own accord… simply, it behaved one (desirable) way before updating, and now it is behaving another (undesirable) way after updating… with no apparent human imput, and no idea how to get it back to behaving as it had previously…
‘No human input’ tends to suggest that you haven’t assigned a Section Layout to each of your Section Types — in which case the compiler is simply passing through the basic settings from the Binder. (This is one of the changes from v2.)
Click on the button ‘Assign Section Layouts’. You’ll see a list of the different type of elements in your binder (examples could be Chapter, or Heading, or Scene etc) on the left.
Click on each one and then scroll through the dummy formats (‘Section Layouts’) in the middle to choose one that suits each section type.
Eg. there will be ones which show a page break before and various combinations of a chapter number and title. Select the ones which seem most suitable for each of the items in the list, then press OK and compile.
Eg. Here I’m assigning a basic Chapter layout, with Chapter number and title (Section title).
Ignore the actual names of the section types and layouts – they will probably differ. Just choose the one which looks right for the type of document.
If none of the defaults are right, then back in the initial compilation screen, right click on a format close to the one you want and choose Duplicate & Edit Format. You’ll be able to click on the copy and then you’ll get a screen of advanced formatting options allowing you to make more subtle changes.
I’ve tried a few of those and I’ve ended up with even more profoundly misshapen outputs. Even the previous sections (that I had generated and presented previously) end up coming out differently than they did before… no section headers. I really appreciate your help but why on earth was the decision made to change the manner in which output appears from default settings? Why isn’t there an “emergency button to make it come out as it did previously”? How can I possibly get specific assistance without needing to divulge very sensitive corporate documents?
Anyway it sickens me to say so but given the pressing need I’ve had to export to Word and reformat the whole thing ahead of tomorrow’s deadline. This really should not have been necessary and this very much needs to be fixed, because users not being able to cajole their program into providing the same output as previously from the same settings is not quite a bug, but a major disservice.
And I say that as somebody that loves Scrivener and (regrettably, I must say at this point) jumped at the opportunity to upgrade. I have learnt that doing so midway through a project (albeit one that straddles many months, and thus has a high chance of overlapping some upgrade or another) is a big no-no.
I do sympathise with the trouble you’ve had with such a deadline — it’s a horrible feeling. Unfortunately it’s not really possible to give specific help without more of detailed description of the problem (which understandably you can’t give). (I’m not part of the developers, BTW, just a beta tester).
If you were starting from scratch or if you’d had time to go through the material explaining the new assumptions, then getting to your desired layout would be easier in V3 than in V2 in my experience – but that requires knowing something of the (different) assumptions behind the process. Trying to work out what those different assumptions are against a deadline without using the documentation is going to be difficult.
It sounds like it’s too late now for this project, but the documentation provided by L&L (the Interactive Tutorial and the Upgrade Guide as well as the manual) explains the new process and give specific instructions for the process for converting V2 compilation formats to V3.
But if by any chance you need further help with this project then if you could let us know what the basic structure of your project is (Part / Chapter / Section etc) and what you want each to look like (in terms of each section numbering/titles. page breaks etc), in which format, then we can at least start to give some practical help.
Heh, I really appreciate your help.
Having found a hack around tomorrow’s deadline, I’m going to have to sit down and read all the documentation and rebuilt my document’s formatting from scratch (or so it seems)… which is a bit irksome, since it worked fine beforehand.
I noticed that when exporting to Word (RTF, actually) the section headers suddenly reappeared, albeit in the wrong font (cough, a different font compared to they did earlier with the previous version), so maybe I can leverage this small mercy into something workable that absolves me of the need to rebuild everything from scratch.
I would have thought they would have been more conservative when it came to output-changing behaviours. I suppose a few civilians’ worth of collateral damage is acceptable in the grand scheme of things. Still it irks me profoundly to figure amongst the accidentally slain.
I hope it goes well.
Actually, you’ll find you’re not rebuilding your formatting from scratch (it just feels like it at them moment…)
You 're essentially going to be saying in the Binder: these folders are chapter headings, these documents are sections, these documents are subsections.
When you you compile you’ll tell it: print chapter headings like this and print sections like that by selecting an option from the list of provided default Section Layouts (ie section formatting including titles etc).
The defaults cover a lot of possibilities, but if they don’t then you edit the formats to get more control – it’s only then that you have to start doing the sort of thing you did in V2 Compile => All Options. All that flexibility is still there (in fact it’s a lot more powerful), but it’s hidden from view initially because the defaults themselves are more wide-ranging than in V2.
The process is actually more straightforward that V2, it’s just quite a bit different when you first encounter it.
Anyway, good luck with the document for tomorrow…