How many shots in that latte?

Me: 20 oz., four shot Mocha.
You? (Y’all?)

My coffee guy (he is more of a dealer/pusher really) says that my regular coffee is more like espresso. It didn’t know that you were only supposed to use 1 scoop for every cup of water. Or that only 1 filter was enough.

4 is my standard these days but that is more a limit of the mug. I can only get a dribble of milk and flavor. But I do drink 2 at a time so …

Anyway, hard to type with the hands shaking this much.

I’m particularly fond of what places often refer to as “Mind Benders”, “Java Jolts”, “Koffee Killers” or “Black Tiger Fang” and so forth. Basically you make a latte as you ordinarily would, except without the milk. Instead of milk you use regular coffee. Flavour balance: 2 shots per 10 ounces of coffee. This is a baseline requirement level of caffeine for living in Portland. Any less and you get booted down to where even bilge water and rats dare not tread.

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But when I tire of that, I just drink espresso; either straight or in café macchiato form.

Yes… according to my research, moving to the PNW grants me the right to drink all the coffee I want. :mrgreen:

Yes, how does the joke go, out here we even have espresso stands in the bathrooms of coffee shops?

Three. Add a little caramel syrup, and I’m really happy! :mrgreen: It’s just delicious, and it helps me focus enough to write my way through stuff that could otherwise be dreadfully boring.


Coffee is related to Authors, writers, or people who study or work a lot.

Mountain Dew or other Caffeine intense soda’s (power sodas) are related to “coders”, “hackers”, “krackers”, or other technical savvy people (IT for example).

Gatorade or other sports drinks are related to Athletes or people who work athletically.

Water is for people who are health minded and tend to work out or do athletic activites more leated to health (Like jogging, yoga, aerobics, martial arts, etc)

Sodas are related to younger kids (teenagers) and gamers.

Ice tea that is very sweet “Southerner”. Warm tea or unsweatend “yankee”.

Tea offered in a social situation or polite greeting “British”.

Cold beer after 5 “Blue collar”

Wine with dinner “Formal”.

The list and situations can go on and on but in the end it bodes one question.

Does what we drink define our “culture” or do we define our culture by what we choose to drink and with whom?


Tough call. That takes us straight into ‘the chicken or the egg’ territory. :question: :exclamation:

Some of each, I’d say. It depends. :mrgreen:

And stereotypically, scotch, at least for the writer half of that.

Terms. Soda is for yanks and Californians. Pop is for Northerners in general. “Coke” is for Southerners, who order such chimeras as Sprite Coke.

Some interesting things: Virginia and North Carolina seem to have no consensus. Odd. Another strange thing: enough people over the Arctic Circle line in Alaska are even aware of its existence. Also curious is the resemblance to a 2008 Obama vs. McCain voting map. There must be some deep implications, with people who call it “Sugar Water” voting for Nader.

I’ve had Southerner Sweet Tea where the concentration of actual tea to sugar and water is approaching homoeopathic levels of irrelevance. :slight_smile:

Not to mention all over the Asian continent, including Japan. If you consider Maté to be in the same category (even though of a taxonomically different plant); large areas of South America as well.

To expand that a bit: Are there drinks which hermits favour, or in other words, are some beverages generally without redeeming qualities except for their social or cultural aspect. Culturally speaking though, I’d say social tea is the Football of the beverage world. Pretty much everyone does it except for a few in the United States, and then their version is either called something different, or enjoyed entirely differently.

Tonight I am drinking from a bottle labelled “Goats do Roam.”

How did I ever end up like this?? :cry:

two letters: NJ

Amber, Might I suggest Sody-pop as an answer to

Also, the REAL hicks don’t call it pop, or soda. The y and hyphen are the true mark of the backwoods.

[quote=“everyone I know”]
'ey Jethro! Grab tem thar kiddies a ‘nother sody-pop. And since youse in t’ fridge get mees a 'nother beer. And ask maw ta bring up a 'nother jug from the steel.

Those phonetics are hard to get right.

My wife shops at a store that carries a large stock of beer, both domestic micro-breweries and European brands. You can pick up an empty cardboard six-pack carrier and fill it with picks of your choice. I can always tell how how my “marriage maintenance” program is going by how many bottles of “Old Peculiar” are in the container. It’s not too subtle, but at least I can drink the bad reviews.

I was going to suggest Coors as a beverage with absolutely no redeeming features, save for the fact that it gets sold in 48-pack monoliths for $10, but sody-pop is definitely a contender.

Bud light.
Old Milwaukee
Genesee (Genee as it is known in its home town where even the drunk bums refuse it).

My all time favorite in this category: Pabst “blue ribbon”

Then I am not a fair jury. My requirements are tough. Taste like something that was not previously contained in a mammal’s BLADDER.

Ah, but reptilian bladders; now that’s the stuff of prestige.

Have you ever tried “3 snake gall-bladder wine”? I have. It’s enough to make you look forward to a “Blue Ribbon”!



All of you people putting quotes around Blue Ribbon have clearly never had a $2 PBR at Bigfoot in Silver Lake, CA.

Ah how about the beer known as “The Beast?”

“8 ball”

“Mickey’s Double Deuce”

And by the way since food could fit in this category

What is a “tatered num num?”

No indeed I haven’t … but I put quotes around “Blue Ribbon” 'cos I can get something that purports to be that in supermarkets here in Xiamen, and I am willing to bet that it bears about as much similarity to real, original Blue Ribbon as the LandLakes Medium “Cheddar” sold by Carrefour here bears to real (e.g. Montgomery’s or Keane’s) Cheddar … which is virtually none.