I'm thinking of leaving Adobe Cloud for Affinity

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I’m not a lawyer, and maybe that doesn’t mean what it looks like, but it sounds a bit…

“13. Canva (or its affiliates or licensors) may suspend, remove, modify or disable (or impose limits on) access to the currently available Affinity Software and/or any Affinity-Licensed Content at any time without notice and without liability to you.”

How about “no”?

“14. … For the avoidance of doubt, your and your Users’ use of the Affinity Software, Affinity-Licensed Content and User Content/Customer Material must comply with Canva’s Acceptable Use Policy.”

I don’t give a damn about your acceptable bullshit whatever. In fact, I intend to produce the most unacceptable content possible just to piss you off.

“16. Subject at all times to your compliance with these Affinity Additional Terms and the Agreement, Canva or its affiliates (as applicable) grant you a perpetual, non-exclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use, display or access the Affinity-Licensed Content made available to you as part of the Affinity Software.”

What happened to all the “freedom” blah blah? I came for the freedom stuff. (Not necessarily “free”, I’m a paying customer! Or was.) Now I have to sign in, so you can lock me out whenever you feel like it for not complying? Right.

Nope. Go *uck yourself.

Source: https://www.canva.com/policies/affinity-additional-terms/

“We may analyze your activity, content, media uploads and related data in your account to provide and customize the Service, and to train our algorithms, models and AI products and services using machine learning to develop, improve and provide our Service. You can manage the use of your data for training AI to improve our Service in the privacy settings page under your privacy settings”.

Too bad this link ends in a 404.

“For advertising purposes: We use information about you, including cookies information and other information we (and our third-party partners) collect from you automatically about your use of the Service, to serve, personalize and measure the effectiveness of advertising on the Service and third-party sites and platforms.”

The usual nonsense. But wait, it gets better…

"For safety, security, fraud and abuse measures: We may use information about you, your activity, content, media uploads and related data in your account to prevent, detect, investigate and address safety, security, fraud and abuse risks, and to develop our algorithms and models to identify violations of this Privacy Policy, our Terms of Use or our Acceptable Use Policy (e.g., detecting content such as pornographic or copyright protected material).

Not gonna happen. Not even “for free”.

Source: Privacy Policy

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Canva desktop (which I never did anything with much beyond messing around with it) as well as this new Affinity app just went to the Trash.

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My needs are considerably simpler than they were during the years I used Adobe Cloud for my publishing house. I had hoped that Affinity would make a suitable and less-expensive alternative going forward. But honestly, I’m having an allergic reaction to what’s now being offered (I guess I’ve come down from my sugar high).

If not Adobe Cloud or Affinity, what, then, shall I use for cover and interior book design and layout?

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It’s a long time since I tried Scribus (free and open source), and for some reason didn’t continue using it back then, so this barely passes as a “can’t hurt to try” idea.

Assuming you don’t want to learn TeX.

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You don’t have to be online to use the product.

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You mean they send someone who comes to my house to get the data?

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What good is an art creation app if you can’t make porn?

The problem with a clause like this is that the definition of “porn” has always been highly contested. At various times, both the original and various replicas of Michelangelo’s David have been adorned with fig leaves. A corporate “Acceptable Use Policy” is always going to err on the side of a more conservative definition. Big, big red flag.

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I didn’t even want to create porn. Until they said I’m not allowed to.

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Me neither. But my point is that your (and my) definition of porn may not match theirs. There are political reactionaries who, for instance, want to define same sex relationships as inherently “indecent.” Not to mention the long, long, history of artistic nudity.

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Yes, you do. I tried it; if I logout the app quits. There’s no way to use it without logging in.

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That’s how it appears, despite their statement you don’t have to be. Also, I don’t like it from a quick look at it.

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Imagine this was Scrivener. “Feel free to write anything you want… if we approve it. Or else.” Who would be stupid enough to even download such a program? It’s basically spyware. Why would anyone want a third-party breathing down their neck, innocent or not. Madness.

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If the need to be online remains I won’t be using it. For the time being I’ll use V2 while I check out alternatives.

Unless I use it to generate porn to see at what point their server steps in to censor. :rofl:

Most UNAUSTRALIAN of them!

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thanksfornothing
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Shocking porn!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Me, while I was still high and not thinking straight.

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Who among us can cast the first stone?

Certainly not me.

Every computer I’ve owned has been tainted by some program I downloaded, thinking it was a good idea at the time…

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I’ve read too many conflicting things about the new Affinity. On the one hand, there’s @November_Sierra’s concerns, which are very legit. However, I’ve found information that suggests those concerns are only valid if you remain online with Affinity, use Canva’s AI and cloud services, any collaborative services and so forth. There’s a lot of opt-out/disable tick boxes and whatnot.

Numerous people (including Canva FAQs) say that Affinity can be used offline. So, I downloaded and installed it again. I cannot find out how to use it offline. Every time I start it, I have to login through Canva. Every time I want to sign out, the app quits (not a bug or a crash, a feature. The sign out window says “Sign out and Quit.”

AFAIK, signing in = being online. Signing out = being offline. Yet, signing out quits the app. I went through all of the obvious settings to see if I was missing something, nothing pertains to using the app without signing in. I even went to Canva’s website. Nothing there (of course by this time my patience was waning and maybe I gave up too soon, but I don’t care.) Back to the trash.

Maybe I’m too old (62) and stupid for these times, but there’s just too many ???'s for my sanity and comfort.

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Follow-up question. (Can you pull it out of the trash once more? :face_with_peeking_eye:) What happens when you don’t sign out, but cut off the internet connection?

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Kwap, that sucker’s gone. Sorry. :frowning: That would’ve been interesting.

I also went nuclear and deleted my Canva account; I rarely used it anyway except to occasionally play with the free functions. Pfffthth.

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