Issue with color in Binder/popups in Binder/Touch Bar customization

I’ve discovered that if I use color in the Binder, and then do a full project search using the field in the Touch Bar, if I try to drag the border between the Binder and the Editor to the right so that I can see the ends of the Doc titles (I put ch numbers there), the border moves, yet the Doc titles do not expand to accommodate this. Quite annoying. I have to turn color off in the Binder and back on to get that to work.

Also, if I try to customize the Touch Bar, that window appears, but the main Scrivener window disappears, making it impossible to drag anything to the TB.

MacBook Pro, M1 silicon, v11.4, Scrivener v3.2.2.

BTW, it would be really handy if we could hover over full project search listings in the Binder to see a brief popup of the entire Doc title or Folder title, and this would also improve the Binder itself (even while not in project search mode).

Does the first issue require using the Touch Bar to initiate search? I cannot reproduce this myself, using the standard keyboard shortcut to open search (I don’t have a Touch Bar). But it may also be an issue of macOS version, as I’m on 10.14—hence it would be good to check and see if this is something that always happens on macOS 11, regardless of how you start searching.

Also, if I try to customize the Touch Bar, that window appears, but the main Scrivener window disappears, making it impossible to drag anything to the TB.

Is that different from how other programs work? The way I recall it working, there is no need to see the project window when customising the Touch Bar, you drag buttons from the on-screen area down into the bar itself.

I’m speaking of the Touch Bar in Scrivener (I don’t find anything useful programmed for Scrivener in the MBP TB). Maybe my terminology is wrong—I’m speaking of the bar at the top of the Editor that includes styles, fonts, etc., which is below the Tool Bar, on the main screen.

As to how other programs work, it seems that typically the TB does NOT disappear when being customized, and I suspect that is the goal in Scrivener as well, since this is how I recall it operating before now.

But my apologies: this is a separate issue and I should have placed it in a separate thread.

The real problem I see is the problem with dragging the divider between Editor and Binder and the titles not expanding until the ‘use color in’ option is first defeated.

The real problem I see is the problem with dragging the divider between Editor and Binder and the titles not expanding until the ‘use color in’ option is first defeated.

Yeah, again just let me know if you see the problem no matter how you start the search, just try the Edit ▸ Find ▸ Project Search... menu command if you aren’t sure how else to do this. I’ll write it up as a potential macOS 11-only display bug if that’s the case (and I suspect it is).


Maybe my terminology is wrong—I’m speaking of the bar at the top of the Editor that includes styles, fonts, etc., which is below the Tool Bar, on the main screen.

Oh okay, that’s the Format Bar, and there are no customisation options for that anyway. The Touch Bar customisation screen is only there for changing the glass strip along the top of the physical keyboard itself—and it is in fact that whole user interface is part of the Mac itself, not Scrivener. We don’t have any control over how it works.

As to how other programs work, it seems that typically the TB does NOT disappear when being customized, and I suspect that is the goal in Scrivener as well, since this is how I recall it operating before now.

Sorry, I’m not sure what that means. Most programs do not have a secondary toolbar like Scrivener does. I’m really confused at this point though, as you say it used to work another way. But like I say this isn’t even something coming from Scrivener. All we do is give the OS some graphics for the buttons.

Again, my apologies. I am certainly more confused than you. Apparently I was not in Scrivener, but the Finder, and this was invoking the customization of the MBP TB, which since Apple implemented it a decade ago, never updated it, and is now abandoning it, I prefer not to get used to it or dependent on it, so I was unfamiliar with it.

So this is not a Scrivener problem, and we can rewind and pretend it never baffled the poo out of me.

The original problem I mentioned is invoked using the button for ‘Program Search’ in the Scrivener Tool Bar (not the format bar, as I had imagined above). The search works fine, and it is a very powerful feature. But dragging the separator seems to not reveal the ends of the doc/folder titles if ‘Use Color In …’ is invoked for the Binder.

Okay, thanks! We’ll look into it. macOS 11 broke a lot of layout, understandably, and in older systems too because stuff had to be changed to make it work there, which messed up how it used to work, etc.