[LH3603 & LH3999] Asterisk (as separator) and Page Number formatting Issues on Compile.

Hello!

Using the latest version 21:

Sometimes, when compiling for a Word Document docx, asterisks appear randomly on title page and filles the lines (three asterisk per line) between title page and copyright page and acknowledgment page. Other times, all looks as it should with the three asterisk separatating one scene from another.

The page number will not center on the Word Document, no matter where I place the page number code in the three boxes (left, right, and center). I want the numbers centered on the bottom of the page but it isn’t happening. It just justifies to the left.

Not sure how to fix any of these discrepancies so I thought I should report it.

Thanks.

Please, check your “Blank line separator:” text within the current compile format Separators section. Most likely it has an asterisk inside.

Hi Tiho,

The asterix problem is the same issue as reported here https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/rc1-compile-output-places-asterisks-on-blank-lines-and-ignores-page-breaks/46759/1.

It’s still there in beta 22 / RC 2.

There is no asterisk as a separator in the compile format options.

I’ve emailed you a PDF compiled from the test project I sent you last week that shows this issue and many others.

Please, check the “Chapter”, “Chapter with Title”, “Titled Section” and all the other Section Layouts within the “Separators” section. The “Blank line separator:” field has an asterisk(as displayed in the screenshot below) which you may want to remove, or remove the empty lines at the beginning, middle and at the end of your document.

Thansk Tiho, but as I said, I checked the compile format, there are no asterix in any of the blank line separator for any of the sections. Also it doesn’t explain the fact that the new page instructions are not executed either. I haven’t changed anything in the compile format between beta 21 and beta 22, and this issue wasn’t present with any of the previous beta for me.

I occasionally need some empty lines to centre some titles vertically on the page. I can ‘t remove them.

Please read the above post if you haven’t done so already.

I have tried compiling the same project with the same compile format (exported from the Mac) freshly imported on another PC and I don’t have the issue there.

When you edit the formats, they look the same: no asterix for any blank line separator.

Before I try deleting and re-importing the format, do you want me to make a copy of both formats from both installs and send them to you, saying which is which? If yes, please remind me where custom format files are located.

I believe that this is something that was changed by beta 22 on the PC where the custom format was already present when I updated to beta 22…

I can confirm this by deleting and re-importing the very same format on the PC that shows the unwanted asterix, but I’d like you to confirm you don’t need the evidence first…

The asterisk issue in the Word document does not show after every compile. It will appear when I make changes to the formatting and compile it. If I shut down Scrivener and launch it again without making changes to the file, I can compile the same document and the asterisks are no longer there. They only appear when I change some of the settings like trying to center the page number.

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Please, check the “Chapter”, “Chapter with Title”, “Titled Section” and all the other Section Layouts within the “Separators” section. The “Blank line separator:” field has an asterisk(as displayed in the screenshot below) which you may want to remove, or remove the empty lines at the beginning, middle and at the end of your document.

Thanks for the response.

I rechecked the areas as you suggested, but do not see the asterisk (or anything else for that matter) in the section you indicated.

Hi!

Did anyone have a solution or fix for the formatting of the page number at the bottom on a compiled 6 x 9 document (MS Word or PDF)?

To have the compiled document show the page number at the bottom and centered, I place the code for the page number in the center box of the three-box options — right, middle, or left.

However, no matter how many variations of the numbering configuration I try in the compiler, the page number is always left-justified at the bottom of each page.

Any insight on this would be great.

Thanks,

Hello!

I share the following only with the hope that the experience might help with getting the header and page number formatting to work in the Windows version of Scrivener 3.

Issue #1: Header prints the title on the right side of the page but not the author on the left-hand side of the page, which is what I had programmed it to do in the compile.
Issue #2: The page number continues to be left-justified despite my setting up the compiler to center the page number.

Observation: So, I took the file that was not formatting as programmed (see the two issues above) within the compile functions and opened that file with my Mac. Once there, I compiled the same file and the two issues described above were no longer issues. The author’s name appeared at the top of the left page, the project title appeared on the right page, and the page number was centered at the bottom of each page.

Conclusion: Not sure what you would conclude from this and what Windows isn’t doing with the same information that I give the Mac. I just hope this might help when fixing this.

P.S. With the MAC and using the same Scrivener file the asterisks are not an issue as they tend to be with Windows.

Could you share (either attach here or email to win3beta@literatureandlatte.com) a sample project set up with the compile format that is producing the incorrect asterisks, and instructions on reproducing if, as has been noted above, the asterisks don’t occur on every compile? You can create a copy of a real project with this error using Save As and then trim it down (just be sure it still reproduces the problem), or you can use the gear button in compile to export the compile format from your working project and import it as a project format into a new sample project.

Regarding the placement of the header/footer, that is a bug we have filed. There are several issues at present with the headers and footers in varying file formats that we’re working on. For now, the alignment will need to be fixed after compile, using Word or another word processor that supports headers and footers. This isn’t an issue with the compile format but just how the exporter is dropping the individual alignments for the sections, so once the issue is fixed within the compile engine, your existing format should start working.

Not to suggest that the OP shouldn’t do what you suggest but both Bryan and Tiho have been sent a project sample that exhibits these issues on PC and not on Mac. That’s two different projects. There are no particular steps. You compile on PC, the new page instructions are skipped and the three asterisks are compiled instead of a blank line. You compile the same project on the Mac and there are no issues. Are you saying that they are unable to reproduce these issues with these two projects?

The problem disappeared when I re-imported a compile format on my bootcamp install. It’s still there on my Win 10 VM. I’ll post a test project and a PDF later.
Test beta 22 on Bootcamp after re-import of compile format (no asterisks and skipped new page issue).pdf (71.9 KB)

And here is the PDF of same project compiled on my Win 10 VM with all the outstanding issues in beta 22, including these.

I would be happy to provide a copy of the two compile formats to the devs could look into the differences if I was told where they are saved. I’ve mentioned this to Tiho here https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/rc1-compile-output-places-asterisks-on-blank-lines-and-ignores-page-breaks/46759/1 but never got a reply.

I’ll email the zip of the project to you with a link to both thread as it’s too large to be uploaded here.
Test bugs beta 22 from Win 10 VM (with asterisks and skipped new pages).pdf (74.1 KB)

EDIT (again): I didn’t see any recent sample projects in our email system. Are you seeing the error with the “Test bug 20” project you sent earlier in August, compiling to .docx using the “Non-Fiction Manuscript (Times)” project format? If there is a different project, could you please either attach it here or try sending again to the win3beta@literatureandlatte.com address? I’d appreciate the whole project rather than just the compile format, since the arrangement of the binder, section types, etc. may play into the results.

Saved custom project formats are saved within the project folder itself, so if you share the project, they’ll already be included. Formats you save to “My formats” are stored within the user App Data folder; you can access them easily via File >Reveal Application Support Folder in Scrivener’s main window. However, if the project itself is set up with the compile settings that will produce the error, those current settings are saved with the project (not as a reloadable format), so the format itself isn’t necessary as long as we get the sample project.

Hi Jennifer,

Thanks for this. I’ve emailed the test project to you before seeing your replies. My compile template is saved separately, so I’ll retrieve it from both installs and will send both files to you separately so you can compare them. I’ll indicate which is which to make things easier.

My email was rejected, I assume because the .zip file is too big. I’ll resend with everything in the same email and an AmazonS3 link to download the .ZIP.

That’ll be perfect, thanks. Sorry for the back and forth confusion here.

No problem. :slight_smile:

I’ve emailed you a link to a ZIP archive with everything you need to reproduce (and hopefully fix!) these bugs.

It’s my updated test project that also shows all the other outstanding bugs.

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Could you share (either attach here or email to win3beta@literatureandlatte.com) a sample project set up with the compile format that is producing the incorrect asterisks, and instructions on reproducing if, as has been noted above, the asterisks don’t occur on every compile? You can create a copy of a real project with this error using Save As and then trim it down (just be sure it still reproduces the problem), or you can use the gear button in compile to export the compile format from your working project and import it as a project format into a new sample project.

Thanks for the response, Jennifer!

Previous Issue: Here’s the thing about the incorrect asterisks. It doesn’t matter what the formatting is set in the compiler. If I open the compile function, make (or not make changes) and then save it. It will produce the asterisks. If afterwards, I close Scrivener, open it again and run the compile the asterisks vanish. In other words, I don’t have to make changes to make the asterisks go away. I simply need to close and reopen Scrivener 3.

New Issue: When I try to compile the same project with the same configuration that worked 50% of the time without showing asterisks, I now I get this error message(see attachment). In other words, I can’t compile the project anymore.

Points:

  1. I’m starting to think that having both Scrivener 1.9 for Windows and Scrivener 3 for windows (beta) on the same PC maybe causing this new issue and the previous formatting issues? Although both versions are installed in different directories with different folder names (as the instructions advised to run both versions side by side), neither of the Scrivener versions have been functioning as they should after I install both on the same machine, especially Scrivener 1.9 for Windows which now takes longer to launch and often gives the message of “not responding” before eventually loading.

  2. Given what I explained above, let me know what you need from me. In the meantime, I will uninstall Scrivener 3 beta and reinstall it to see if that helps restore the ability to compile.

Thanks.
New error message when I try to compile the same program..JPG