Love Scriv but - outliner problems - PROBLEM SOLVED.

It would be really handy if the relevant rows in the outliner view could actually correspond to the sequence on the corkboard and the binder.

I’ve moved folders/scenes using the corkboard and the binder and they stay in the exact same place in the outliner view.

Also, the outliner occasionally drops its bundle and I lose all of the custom metadata columns I’ve created and have to reactivate them one by one.

something to prevent their random and inexplicable loss would be nice.

A checkbox system so that you can check boxes in the open menu and reactivate them all at once would be good. Going back into that menu and redoing them time and time again for each one is seriously annoying.

Brilliant job though fellers. It’s a really good piece of software.

“It would be really handy if the relevant rows in the outliner view could actually correspond to the sequence on the corkboard and the binder.
I’ve moved folders/scenes using the corkboard and the binder and they stay in the exact same place in the outliner view.”

Rufus, I am not able to recreate this in my install of Scrivener for Windows 1.7.2.0

I tested with binder visible on the left and with the editor split into two vertical windows, one in corkboard view, the other in outline view. Moving a folder or document item in any of these views, resulted in the other views updating and showing the same view. I think I did see a few slightly perceptible delays in this happening, but nothing objectionable or intolerable. I’m working on a fairly fast PC.

You might try this again, with a different project. Or try uninstalling, re-downloading and reinstalling Scrivener.

Other possibilities to look at… speed of PC, amount of RAM (chip memory), amount of free space on the local in-PC hard drive (HD) or solid state drive (SSD) that Scrivener and the project are located on, what other apps or background stuff is running…

Hope that is of some assistance. Good luck.

The main thing I can think of where changes made in one editor do not reflect in the other editor is if they are not viewing the same precise thing. That may seem obvious, but there is one subtle difference between viewing 15 items together on a corkboard, and viewing a container that has those 15 items. In the latter case, when you just click on a folder in the Binder and view its child items, then moving things should update everywhere. These are all connected together and just multiple different ways of viewing the same content. But, if you have individually selected 15 items then your outliner or corkboard will be a multiple selection. You’ll know that’s the case if it won’t let you move things around within it. Changes made in other views will not impact a multiple selection view.

But ordinarily, like I say: Binder, Corkboard and Outliner (as well as Scrivenings mode, to a degree) are all just different ways of looking at exactly the same stuff. Thus the only time they should be out of sync is when they aren’t looking at the same stuff for one reason or another.

If that is happening repeatedly it could be a bug, but do note that each editor split can have its own outline headers—give you two different ways of viewing material. So if it only happened once, you might have just opened up the Outliner in the editor you hadn’t set up yet.

As for checkboxes, we will add something like that in the future. There will be both menu access for quick one-offs, and a checkbox palette so you can make bulk column adjustments more easily.

Sorry to waste your time people and thanks for trying to help.

The problem was derpitude on my part. I’d input some data for one that belonged in a different one and because so many are blank still, I couldn’t see that a bit of movement was actually happening.

Now it’s sorted, it works beautifully.