Neil Cross's new site - diary of writing a novel

Hi all,

Novelist, screenwriter, Scrivener user, forumite and general good egg Neil Cross has a new website up and running that may be of interest to many here:

neil-cross.com

Neil is a bestselling British novelist who was recently described by the Guardian as “Britain’s own Stephen King”. (I count myself as a fan, based on the three novels of his I’ve read myself - Holloway Falls, Burial and Captured - all brilliant, though you need a strong stomach :slight_smile: ). He also wrote for the BBC show Spooks (MI-5 in the US), and has an upcoming show called Luther staring Idris Elba - Stringer Bell from The Wire.

But I’m not just trying to hawk his site or books for him. :slight_smile: The reason I’m posting is because a section of his site deals with the “how he does it” aspect of novel writing, and as someone still on the outside looking in, I’m sure I’m not the only one here to find authors talking about how they go about novel-writing fascinating.

Full disclosure: Neil asked me if I would mind posting here about his new site, but I’m more than happy to oblige. He’s been using Scrivener since the early days and has used it for his recent novels (he even name-checked us in a BBC Writersroom interview a couple of years ago), and he’s also been incredibly kind with his time and given me lots of good advice about writing and getting to grips with a novel over the past couple of years (that I have still to complete The Novel is entirely my own failing).

Anyway, you’re probably going to find some of his great advice on his site over the coming months, as for his next novel he is maintaining a sort of “development diary” - a blog about the process of writing the novel from first idea to final draft, to which he will be adding over the course of the year as he writes it:

neil-cross.com/wordcount/

If you’re struggling to write your novel as I am, I have no doubt this will be a great read. During the writing of his latest novel, Captured, Neil was kind enough to share with me how he uses what he calls “waypoints” to get him from one part of his novel to the next, and sent me some of the plot points he had planned ahead for his novel, and even some early chapters of a first draft, just to show me how things change and how he goes about the process. Suffice to say that I found it eye-opening and incredibly useful. (I hope Neil doesn’t mind me mentioning this…) So I think it’s fantastic that he’s now doing something like this on a public site (although obviously I doubt he’ll be giving away the plot or any early chapters!). There’s a button on the “wordcount” page to access the RSS feed, too, so you can just receive his novel diary in Mail or wherever.

As Neil is a forum lurker, I’m sure he won’t mind answering the occasional question posted here, either. (If this sentence disappears later, it’s because I’ve volunteered his participation without him offering. :slight_smile: )

All the best,
Keith

P.S. In case this sounds a bit over-enthusiastic, no, I’m not getting paid for this - I just like Neil’s novels and am genuinely grateful for his support both of Scrivener and my own attempts at writing a novel.

P.P.S. While I’m mentioning useful authors’ sites, I think many of you already know about David Hewson’s blog, but it’s definitely worth mentioning again - David Hewson is another bestselling novelist who uses Scrivener, and his blog has the occasional Scrivener tip and article on his own novel writing processes. So, two great resources from Scrivener-using novelists… Did I mention that they used Scrivener? I’m not sure I did…

:confused: Scr…wot? :open_mouth:

Last book I bought was Neil`s, ‘Burial’ :open_mouth:

Wonderful! We have a mascot. :smiley:

Thank you, Keith. I will go and check out Neil’s website directly. Best congratulations to him for his fine taste in writing software.

But…Cherie mon amour, you are our, how you say, ‘sexy’, mascot?
Le D :smiling_imp:

LeD!! :laughing:

Where did you get that nonsensical idea??

I see I will have to post a pic of myself in my bathrobe, as you did.

The clamour for a copy of that, should take the pressure off Grumpy Blounty, and the new iThingy wot-dy-call-it, for a while.
Fluff

Tea, not coffee.

GRRRRRRRRRRR GRRRRRRRRR HOOOOOOWWWWLLL GRRRRRRRRRR :smiling_imp:
Le D :smiling_imp:

And now we return to our scheduled program… :wink:

Did you read Burial yet, Vic, or have you only just bought it?

Oh, poof, slapped on the hand for OT again. :blush:

FWIW, I did subscribe to Neil’s website and look forward gleefully to his next post.

:slight_smile:

(Keith, feel free to scoot that pic over to the coffee/tea thread…)

Yes, and no. Bought it around its publication date, Aug. Mustve just hit the shelves. Saw Neils name across the top of the front cover and threw it in the trolly (Tesco).

Right now, its sitting on top of a pile of four, for [i]re[/i]reading. Parts of it I found quite disturbing (not necessarily the parts you may expect), and I definitely wouldnt care to have to choose who to be locked in a room with, Bob, or Nathan.

I wouldnt be inclined to say more about it, since its only been out about six months, I wouldnt want to give to much of the plot away...any of it for that matter. That said, I did find that the blurb on the back cover, did just that. I felt from the off, that I already knew what was going to happen. If I was Neil, Id keep an eye on what they stick on the cover of his books. Id definitely recommend [i]'Burial'[/i]. Read it. Its got Neil`s fingerprints all over it. :open_mouth:

I`ll be dropping a few hints amongst family members, about, ‘Captured’, see if any of the family buy it for me.

Since the BBCs upcoming, [i]'Luther'[/i], is Neils creation, I`m expecting great things from it.
Take care
vic

Hey, thanks for the kind words Vic. Cheered up a slightly difficult day, there. (Two PSPs being left on a plane being the bit we’ll look back on, I am assured, and laugh)

It’s a good point about the cover copy. It’s always a difficult balance between telling enough to make people interested and telling them too much.

And then, of course, there’s not telling them enough. I used to work for a large British publisher and the literary editors used to drive me insane with their cover copy, especially on paperbacks. (“Exquisite” - TLS, “Life changing” - Elle Magazine. Well, yes…but what’s it ABOUT?)

Now theres a thing, :confused: Scrivener for Play station. Ill have to have a word with Grumpy about that.
Neil,
Finger crossed you get them back. :wink:

The blurb I was referring to, wasnt the pared down snippets of the reviews in the D Mail,Time Out, D Mirror and Guardian. You couldnt have written better plugs yself. No, what Im talking about is an unattributed piece resembling a110 word synopsis. It`s the kind of thing I would probably be able to decide yey or ney, if I was a commissioning editor. It pretty much tells you what Bob can expect.

Any of the truncated media snippets would ve got me reading, [i]'Burial'[/i]. Just how revelatory the full reviews were I have no Idea. A good reviewer should be able to review a work, to that works advantage, without giving away any of the plot. "This book/novels a crock of shite!", or “This book/novel`s a crock of gold. Buy it now!!” kind-a-thing. :wink:

Best of luck with, ‘Captured’ n ‘Luther’. [size=50]Y` wont need it though.[/size]
Take care
Vic

Yeah, I got that…sorry I was being a bit unclear when I went into my mini-rant, there. The cover copy is inded the block of text, usually written by your editor and/or the marketing dept…and which is always hard to get just right. Sometimes it tells you too much, sometimes not enough.

(Review quotes supporting the cover copy are usually truncated to avoid this.)

But it used to be that – as a kind of alternative to writing cover copy, which is difficult – many paperback editions of literary novels used only adulatory quotes lifted from reviews.

Sometimes, this would even be a list of single words: “Dazzling” - the Spectator, “Insighttful” - TLS, “Moving” - The Big Issue…essentially the kind of thing you get in lights above a West End Musical. But on a book. Telling you, essentially, sweet FA. It used to drive me absolutely batshit.

Between postings, I just watched the first cut of Luther episode 3…

What dythink? Is it shaping up? Is it gonna be another one of, ‘Cross` Babies’?

I’m bound to silence tighter than a tight thing. But I think I’m allowed to say – we think we’ve got something pretty special.

Man, now I’ve started I want to go on and on…

Shut. Up. Neil.

I scrubbed my last post and reworded it before I sent it. It would`ve been something along the lines of:

But as you can see, I was a paragon of self restraint. So must you be. :wink:

I think the correct expression is:

Mum`s the word.
Vic