Problems saving on wireless flash

Hi,
I have a problems saving scrivener projects via wifi flash drive - Kingston MobileLite, actually my data are
on sd card.
I can open the project via this flash drive, this is not a problem. Then, when I attempt to save it, the Scrivener closes with this message

There was a problem saving the project … Not all recent edits could be saved. Files that could be recovered have been saved to … The project will now close.

I have tried your advice given previously on a forum to correct the permissions but it does not help. I am able to change the permissions but then it goes back. I tried to work just with a simple sd adapter connected to my Macbook and it works. The question is whether it is connected with permissions.

Thank you
Rocco

When you say the permissions go back, do you mean you’re looking at them in Finder and they are reverting whenever you open the project? I’m not really familiar enough with the technology you are using to explain why that might be, but Scrivener itself doesn’t have any code involved in manipulating files that way. There must be some other factor involved that is getting in the way.

That aside, I really wouldn’t recommend using an intensely disk-active format like a Scrivener project over WiFi. I wouldn’t recommend using it on Flash technology plugged directly into the computer either. I really wouldn’t recommend combining those two things together. It could very well be you aren’t facing a permissions issue, but rather hitting a limitation in the technology involved in broadcasting your activity over radio waves to a device that is in itself a fraction of the speed of an SSD or platter drive. That might work fine for simple files that are loaded fully into memory and only written when you save, but Scrivener interacts with your disk more like a database might. It’s constantly reading and writing information as you work.

Dear Amber.
thanks a lot for a prompt reply.

I use sd card SDHC 16 gb, which has speed 30 GB in my mac mini in the the card slot in the mac mini.
I backup the contents of the sd card every half an hour to a an internal drive by Carbon Copy Cloner.
Then the contents of this internal drive are backed up every hour to an external firewire disk.

I can open the projects from the wireless card reader, this is not a problem so far. I can save it somewhere on my Macbook if there is such a need and work on the project completely without sd card. Then when the work is finished, I can save it on the sd card by Finder. I think that can solve the problem.

The reasons behind such scenario is that I am usually without wifi connection (either there is no connection or I am abroad). If you know about better arrangement please let me know.

[b]When you say the permissions go back, do you mean you’re looking at them in Finder and they are reverting whenever you open the project?

I change the permissions in Finder and then after a while they go back to “Custom”.

Thank you
Rocco

Where do you see them listed as “Custom”? When I view permissions on a Scrivener project in Finder, by using the Get Info palette, I see a list of access rights in the “Sharing & Permissions” section. A normal accessible file will have your user name, appended by “(Me)” with full “Read & Write” access, and then the rest doesn’t really matter too much for the purposes of this issue. There is nothing here that would print the word, “Custom” to my knowledge.

What steps are you taking to adjust permissions?

At any rate, if permissions are changing on the file sporadically, that is probably the problem rather than the hardware situation. I would still be cautious of using a format like Scrivener projects over WiFi as a general principle (even between two computers with file sharing), but it sounds like other things may be the issue.

Or you could periodically use Scrivener’s File/Back Up/Back Up To… menu command (in fact I use that so much myself that I have move the “Save As” keyboard shortcut to it) to drop a zipped copy of the project as it currently stands onto the SD card. This can be done while you are working, gets a free date stamp on the file name for future reference, and only takes a few seconds for small to mid-sized projects.

Dear Amber,

thanks a lot. I followed your advice and I changed my backup system - now I use as a primary disk - a hard disk with firewire connection. I backup as well to my sd card so when I need I can look for the reference at the contents of my work on the road.

This is ok for the time being. When there will be Scrivener ipad version, there will be no other offline option, then to use wireless driver since you cannot use camera kit for documents (only video and photo files). Have you thought about it ?

Thanks
Rocco

We’ll publicly announce a launch date when we’re ready to do so. I’m not seeing how that relates to this topic, but the iOS version is most certainly capable of working offline. In fact one will be able to use it with nothing more than a cable plugged into a computer to transfer material, 100% “airplane” mode.

Dear Amber,

Thank you very much but I have not asked when the Ipad version is going to be ready :smiley: On the other hand I have to tell you as Scrivener fan I have been patiently waiting for IOS version for several years … :frowning:

This is a misunderstanding I know IOS version is going to be capable working offline.

My question is whether one will be able to work occasionally on Scrivener IPad version with external drive i.e. possibility to download scrivener project from the external drive to ipad, download documents to Binder from external drive … ? So far there is a problem with iPad to download normal documents by usb cable through iPad Camera Connection Kit when you can officially download only photo or movie files …

Thank you
Rocco

Sorry for the misunderstandings. Hmm, I don’t know anything about the iPad Camera Connection Kit. As far as I know, the iPad itself is incapable of mounting an external hard drive and working directly off of it, or allowing other programs to do so. It’s not really a conventional computer, unfortunately, and the whole thing is aggressively sandboxed so that you have to put things “into” applications specifically in order to work with them in those applications. This process is necessarily one of creating a duplicate of the original on the device itself, working on it, and then copying it back and letting the desktop version fold the changes in.

Thank you. It changed my view on IPad vis-a-vis Scrivener. It is probably better to use Macbook Air 11 or 13 on the road instead and one doesn’t have to go through all the hassle with Ipad restrictions. One can directly work with Firewire or usb disk without internet connection and to have at the disposal bigger screen and full keyboard than on IPad …