Depending on your definition of “fully integrated” Mekentosj (now part of Springer) may have already done it.
support.mekentosj.com/kb/getting … anuscripts
Sadly, it wasn’t at this level when I began my thesis, and I wasn’t going to change mid-stream, so I made do with EndNote (which, although it isn’t anywhere near as nice to use as Papers, also works well with Scrivener).
Grand is Scapple. It’s proving really useful for rewriting, having mapped and linked the hundred-odd key points of a whole narrative into it. Healthier than the outliner for locating points that should/could change, and how changes fit into the grand scheme. In fact, great to get a visual overview of an entire project.
No bugs found yet, but some inevitable want-to-haves and observations:
- It’d be good to be able to switch the status bar off in full-screen.
- z to zoom could come with the option to zoom back ‘as was’ as well as centred at mouse pointer (though I see the benefit of this config).
- Be nice to be able to hive areas off with lines/containers … like I do on my whiteboard/on paper. I think this fits directly with the ‘rough scribbles’ model. (Though my quick glance through this thread leads me to believe that such suggestions get pooh-poohed post-haste. Either way, +1 for such ability in future.)
- I think the metaphor of a whiteboard works better than the paper one for me. (But I’m me.)
Really handy tool. Thank you. Will keep testing.
Great!
I can already see the usefulness of it for planning out an early project (I’m on a sequel to a novel so I started using the very bare bones of that to play around with). I’d be interested to see what integration with Scrivener would be possible. I really like the spacebar/hand shortcut to move around though I would like a keyboard +/- shortcut for zooming in and out with an option-0 shortcut for framing selected or (if none selected) everything. That’s the photoshop guy in me talking. That said, I’m happy you are doing this at all and would be very interested in buying it when it’s available.
Super useful.
Bobby
Cmd-+ and Cmd-- are already in use for making the font size bigger and smaller, as these are the standard shortcuts for this action in OS X text apps. You can zoom in or out using opt-cmd-up/down, and you can always change the shortcuts via OS X preferences. Cmd-* zooms to the selection, if that’s what you mean, too.
Thanks for the kind words!
All the best,
Keith
Just to say…Wow! Love this and will be buying.
One question (forgive me if it’s answered elsewhere) - when I drag a text document onto my map(?) I seem only the first page of it - is the whole thing copied across to the file? Just wondering about that in terms of Scrivener integration, so if I have this on my corkboard can I open documents from within it or do the just function as placeholders to jog my memory?
Hope that makes sense and thanks for another brilliant idea/product.
Thanks for the kind words!
If you drag something from Scrivener, then it’s the title and synopsis of the document that gets dragged across, not the text itself. It sounds as though you have an automatically-generated synopsis in Scrivener that shows the first part of the text.
All the best,
Keith
If you want to copy the entire text content into a Scapple document, drag the text from the editor instead of the item from the binder. You might want to split it up by paragraphs though, if so just export the item from Scrivener using .txt as the format. When you drag a text file in, it will ask if you wish to split by anything and you can use carriage returns to split by paragraph.
I have a question. If I copy a part of an image (from Preview), such that it is in the clipboard, I cannot paste it directly to scapple? Currently, Im using Preview’s New from Clipboard feature ot make a new file, and then drag the new file to Scapple.
Hi Keith,
Scapple is great. I like the functions you added to the alpha version, but most importantly you kept the application clean and simple.
Here are some minor observations:
- I don’t really understand what the Distribute function does. I’m sure I’m missing something clever
- I instinctively tried to get out of full-screen mode by pressing the Escape key just as I would in Scrivener. Not a big deal, but I just wanted to mention it.
- I like Scapple stacks. When I add lines to a stack I end up with a spider web of fully interconnected notes, which is often helpful. When I add arrows to a stack, I end up with the top note connected by arrows to each subsequent note in the stack, which is also often helpful. I can see a third manner of connecting a stack that might be helpful, namely an option to consecutively connect the notes in a stack so that note 1 is connected to note 2 which is connected to note 3 etc. This would be useful, for example, for organizing a stack of the days of the week, with Monday followed by Tuesday, etc.
Again, this is a great application that has been very useful to me. I will purchase it instantly whenever it is ready.
Cheers,
Phil
Distribute works like this, say you’ve got four notes along the top and you want to distribute them so that they are equidistant from one another. You start with:
0--0----0-------0Then use distribute to even them out horizontally:
0----0----0----0Of course they might not all be on the same exact level, horizontally, but that is what Align is for.
Another way of putting it, the first and last note within the selected range will not move. Everything in between will move so that the amount of space between each selected note is equal.
Pardon my elderly ignorance here, but is Scrapple what was called, in olden days, The Board?
The Board --> Vellum --> Scrapple
You got it!
Mark
And then Scrapple -> Scapple! 
(Actually, there never was a Scrapple)
oops 
Mark
Surely not. Still…scary to think about losing the ability to see my scapples.
I’d prefer that I could get a license immediately, even as the program stands in Beta. There are a thousand features I would love to request, but even so… Just as it stands, Scapple is the only program that can capture my thoughts as fast as they come out without me having to worry about organization but still being able to easily connect items.
Just the ability to capture those periodic moments of inspiration where all the ideas come at once and its either write them down or lose them forever, makes this program worth $10.
We are within weeks of the December deadline that the program nags me with every time I start it up - can we start talking about extending the deadline, or selling me a copy? Seriously, how can I go ahead and buy this so I don’t have to worry about interruption in service at the end of the month?
Polish it all you want later, for now, sell this as fastest brain pour/capture tool and think you will find a receptive market. Sure, down the road - more color options, refined aesthetics, and higher lever organizational capacities, so much the better, but it a very useful tool as it stands.
Now let me buy it.
Please.
Not to ruffle feathers, but why does this meager function deserve its own independent release as a standalone program? Why is this not a part of Scrivener?
Scrivener users are already paying for what, outside of the indie software world, would amount to minor patches released for free. Now another utility which clearly falls under the umbrella of the main cash cow is being divvied off? So we’ll be paying for Scrivener 3 as well as for Scapple?
I’m not saying this is a blatant cash grab, but I am questioning the reasoning behind making this a separate program. Is there any reasonable explanation?
Are you serious? Or is this just a prank? I don’t think you can be serious. For instance, this comment in itself is laughable:
That has to be a joke. Scrivener 1.x was released in January 2007 and had free updates right up to November 2010. Scrivener 2.x has now seen 2 years of free updates. Here are the free updates users of 2.x have received so far:
literatureandlatte.com/scrivChangeList.php
And all the free updates Scrivener 1.x received:
literatureandlatte.com/scrivChangeList1x.php
Moreover, unlike Apple programs - for which you have to pay again in full - our paid updates are heavily discounted. Scrivener 3.x hasn’t even begun development yet, so Scrivener 2.x will see at least another year of free updates.
My guess is that you never used Scrivener 1.x, because to call Scrivener 2.x a “minor patch” shows complete ignorance of what actually changed between versions. Scrivener 2.x was a radical redesign with many parts of the interface rebuilt from the ground up.
As for why Scapple isn’t part of Scrivener - uh, maybe because it doesn’t belong there? Do you write to Microsoft and ask them why you have to pay separately for Excel and Word? To Apple for why you don’t get iPhoto free with Aperture? To Omni Group to ask why you don’t get OmniGraffle free with OmniOutliner? No? Thought not. And what about Adobe? Presumably you complain to them, too, about how you have to pay so much for what are really just “minor patches” between their various CS releases? (And wait - they aren’t even “indie software”…) Mind-mapping software doesn’t fit into Scrivener; it most certainly does not fall under the umbrella of our “main cash cow”, so this is separate. There would be no way to integrate Scapple into Scrivener; it would have to exist in an independent window separate from the rest of the app, which would have no advantage over having it in a separate app. ( literatureandlatte.com/blog/?p=104 )
If you don’t want to buy it, don’t - no one is forcing you to. If Scrivener isn’t worth $45 to you, then don’t buy that either.
I guess the “reasonable explanation” can only be that some people feel entitled to get everything for free and don’t understand just how much work goes into software development.
Seriously, a “blatant cash grab” when talking about a $10 app created by the developers of a $45 app that gets three-year free updates with many significant additions. 
No feathers ruffled, though - just a huge sigh released.
With you on this 100%, Keith.
It is interesting that virtually all of the almost unanimously positive reviews and reactions to Scrivener remark on the amazing number of things that you can do with the program’s various built-in features, but also that the features are well-integrated into the whole.
And how cheap it is for what you get. I fear the app store is creating an illusion that all independent programs should cost no more than $4.99.
Been on board since Scrivener Gold, and I second your sigh.
–Simon
I downloaded Scapple today and gave it a try. It worked very well for my needs.
A couple of suggestions that I have:
1 - auto re-arrange the notes for me.
I discovered that after spending some time creating and connecting several notes that I was quickly out of space and had to do a lot of dragging around to get things organized. I’d like to have an option to let the software un-overlap nodes for me. I suspect given the nature of the multiple connectedness with Scapple that this would be difficult…so on to #2
2 - allow me to export with the node and edge data.
The current exports only export the notes. I’d like to have an export that gives each note an id, then includes a list of connections. This would give me all of the data, then I could do some interesting things with it.
Great piece of software by the way - I have encountered no bugs in my use of it today with real-life data.
Thanks!
William
Hi William,
Thanks for the feedback! Regarding number 1, how are you running out of space? The canvas is infinite. Whenever you move or add a note at the edge of the board, the board should automatically expand to allow room for more notes.
All the best,
Keith