Just for something on topic. I started using the Beta 3-4 weeks ago. It’s okay to use. It’s not a game changer in comparison to the current Scrivener for Windows anyway. And it still has some bugs. Nothing big. I’m not afraid of loosing data. But there seem to be quite a few little things in the functions I use (I don’t use the compiler).I hope for a 2019 release, but I wouldn’t be surprised, to see a couple more Beta versions.
Scrivener is an exemplary writing tool and I think because of that, it is going to take a long time to finish. Inevitably these things are gonna take time. Getting angry and abusive at L&L does nought to make it go faster and only reflects poorly on you.
Anything worth doing is worth doing properly. I think L&L live up to the spirit and the expression of this. The Windows Beta has been running for a long time and it is true that Scriv 3 on the Mac has been out for a long time already. But I think that it is good that they take their time to get this right. There are too many companies out there who obsess over being the best and don’t take the time to get the basics right (Looking at you Campfire.)
There’s the added caveat that not only are the beta’s recreating Scrivener 3 mac version but also incorporating any updates it has received - the dark/ theme modes are a clear example of this, If it takes L&L another 10 years to complete Scriv for windows, I wouldn’t care because I know the final piece of software will be exemplary. In the meantime, I will use the beta,
The only question that springs to mind for me is whether the free upgrade will still happen given the change to paddle… But that’s a concern for when it is released.
Thanks for the words of encouragement!
It took some custom work to augment their system, but we’ve got all of that sorted out and will be making good on our word, no worries!
I’d also point out how they even made a Windows version. Most companies don’t crossplatform if they didn’t start that way. There are so many similar softwares that I can’t even try since I run Windows and always have (and likely always will).
True. My most used daily applications are Tinderbox, Scrivener, and DEVONThink - only one of these has a Windows version. My `week-end’ writing app is Ulysses - I don’t think that has a Windows version either.
The only thing I’d like is to be able to throw my money at you now for the upgrade, and forget about it until I get a nice e-mail from you sometime in the future with my license key to the release version.
I understand that may affect revenue recognition , and haven’t had any issues using the beta 3 on Win with v3 on OSX so I understand why you might not do that - but pre-orders aren’t too uncommon.
In once sense I do have a pre-order in place. I’ve been waiting on the release for over a year, and yes I paid for the retail version 1.9.
I don’t know how long ago the trial version had been sitting on my desk as I tested it and other various ones. And it is at a cheaper price, I’m sure, for when it is finally released to the public and 1.9 is removed. And I’m sure the key I was issued will work with the newer release as it should see it as an update. Paid update. But I’m just guessing there.
They haven’t said and won’t say when the final release will occur and so it wouldn’t be ideal to offer a pre-order since Win Scriv3 has been in development for well over a year.
Yeah, that’s the hiccup - I picked up Scrivener for Windows in ye olde 1.0 days, so I don’t have a quasi-pre-order in place as a free upgrade for recent purchases. The only thing that would stop me from getting Scrivener 3 for Win would be if they never release it.
Again, not a huge deal. I just prefer to automate as much as possible through fire and forget processes like pre-orders and kickstarters, auto-draft, etc…
“Scrivener 3 for Windows will be available during Q2 in 2019.” It’s right here, in case you somehow missed it: literatureandlatte.com/intr … crivener-3
Which states as follows:
We don’t have a specific release date yet, other than stating Scrivener 3 for Windows will be available during Q2 in 2019.
Note: This page was updated on 10th December 2018 with a revised estimated release date.
Which ends at the end of this month.
In theory 12 days to release, as well as expecting a new beta in two days. Depending on how they measure quarters, I know our Q1 starts Feb1.
The new beta has arrived 
As many have seen, a new Beta was posted. It expires on July 31st. The changelog is a bit smaller than we have seen for most Betas, and it’s trial period is also short much like Beta 17.
My personal belief is they needed one more month to polish things up so pray for a release by the end of July instead of June.
(also at this late date, why is the manual for 3.0 still not included in the Betas? Is that behind schedule as well?)
Much thanks to the developers. But for reasons already detailed at great length in many threads, an official release of 3.0 is sorely needed after waiting all this time.
A) Because they are working on the program first and the manual second.
B) I see no indication that L&L disagrees with this, it just isn’t done to the level they consider Official. Since people can use the beta for free, I suspect their bank account would also agree with you.
Thus I am still mystified as to why people keep saying it like it is a new unique thought that will suddenly change things.
"Hi users, someone just said you want an Official release!. We didn’t realize that! So we have posted the finished version we had stored on a gold floppy disk next to the Arc of the Covenant. Thanks for letting us know this!! "
Doh!
The Win Scrivener 3.0 manual should be quite similar to the Mac Scrivener 3 manual, which is complete and shipping. (And which you can download here if you want: literatureandlatte.com/lear … ser-guides)
There will, however, be quite a few tweaks to the exact names of menus, screenshots, and finicky details like that. Many of those will need to wait until the very end to make sure that the underlying software isn’t going to change.
Katherine
FYI, over the bulk of the beta period, the expiration dates were fairly close. It’s only been the last couple that have been longer, so take that data point with a grain of salt.