Thanks for the support and enthusiasm! Regarding beta-testers, we already have a fairly large pool of Windows and Mac beta-testers, and we’ll be sending out iOS beta invites to everyone already in those two pools. Once we see how many we’ve got, we’ll let everyone else know if we need more beta-testers and how to apply if so. (We always look out for users being particularly helpful on the forums to invite, too.)
So glad I found this forum. I’m a Windows user, and have been working with Scrivener on it for about 4 years. I also have an iPad that comes in handy when I want to get away from the desk. I am so damn excited for the iOS version of Scrivener it’s almost embarrassing. My excitement stems from my last 3 published WIPs where I finally started using Scrivener features to really flesh out my outlines before diving into the writing phase. The result in the quality of my work has been amazing.
The corkboard, basic typing, and sync features will allow me to outline and write on the fly – yeah, even at the local pub
I can see where editing (highlighting and moving text around) might get tedious with an iPad. Especially with my fat fingers. I might do most editing on my Windows box. I use my iPad with a ClamCase bluetooth keyboard, which is great except for some interference from the Wi-Fi connection at times.
So excited. I know there are plenty of beta testers but please let me know if you need any more!
Honestly all I want is the writing view: the left hand sidebar with one click access to all my scenes/chapters, and the writing panel. I can live without the rest of it, the fancy stuff
I nearly let out a yelp in my cubicle at work when I read that just now (I don’t check every day for updates - watching a kettle you know…).
BETA TESTING!!! IT’S HAPPENING!!! I don’t care that its still internal, Beta means you’ve got a working, if buggy, app!!! And a working app means light at the end of the tunnel!!!
Indeed! Ioa has spent the last two weeks really hammering on the sync code, and myself and Tammy have been fixing things here and there (Tammy especially, but some of the sync code is mine). Fortunately, the sync code is looking fairly solid (touch wood!) - phew. (After a bit more testing to ensure the principles are working between Mac and iOS, Lee will implement syncing in the Windows version, too.) There are a number of things coming up in testing - rough edges that you only see when you are using the app - but yes, it’s game on (at last), and quite exciting. I’ll put some details up on the blog about it in the coming weeks, with screenshots and everything (again, at last).
I wouldn’t call it a “screenplay function” so much, as the iOS version has no dedicated screenplay tools at all (for 1.0 - they will be coming later). But screenwriters can use the desktop version to convert scripts for syncing. Basically, what you do is this:
Go into Format > Scriptwriting > Mobile Script Settings…
Turn on “Convert script files to use Fountain paragraph formatting”.
Choose which elements of your script map against Fount elements (you don’t need to do this if you are using regular screenplay format, as they’ll already be mapped).
With that set up, Scrivener flattens the paragraph formatting of any files using script format and inserts any Fountain syntax to identify those paragraphs as necessary (e.g. a period in front of a scene heading if it can’t be identified by “INT” or “EXT” and so on). Then you type away on the iOS version without worrying about paragraph formatting, just using Fountain syntax for paragraphs where necessary. Then, on sync, Scrivener converts your script files to use proper paragraph formatting, getting rid of any Fountain characters. When you have this conversion setting turned on, the mobile version allows you to create new script files, too.
As I say, this is a stopgap until we introduce proper scriptwriting features, so that sciptwriters can at least use the iOS version without losing all of their script formatting or having to try to apply it manually. (And it flattens the paragraph formatting on iOS so that you haven’t got a 2.5" gap to the left of the text on an tiny screen.)
I would love to join the beta test if it’s possible. I use Scrivener for editing my books while I write out drafts on my ipad through Word (later importing them into Scrivener). If I can keep it down to just using Scrivener, that would be amazing! I would use it so often, I’d be able to submit feedback and bug reports with no problem.
[quote="KB"Then you type away on the iOS version without worrying about paragraph formatting, just using Fountain syntax for paragraphs where necessary. Then, on sync, Scrivener converts your script files to use proper paragraph formatting, getting rid of any Fountain characters. When you have this conversion setting turned on, the mobile version allows you to create new script files, too.[/quote]
sounds excellent. I already sync and use Fountain between Scrivener and WriteRoom. This will be even better.
Exactly - the current Mac version doesn’t know about iOS sync yet, either, because the iOS version hasn’t been released. When the iOS version is released, we will also release Mac and Windows updates so that you can sync with it. We’re certainly not going to have iOS sync Mac-only!
So great to hear about the progress of the iOS version. I thought that since the developer diary wasn’t updated since the summer that things weren’t coming along. I was still going to buy it when it came out, of course.
This news is welcome and I hope it will be a financial boon to L&L as well as - you people deserve it.
This is my first time on the forums and I thought I’d start by throwing an idea into the mix… An iOS companion app for the Apple Watch. No, not one to write with, that probably wouldn’t work very well (unless they made a huge a 4" version and called it the Apple Watch plus ) I’m thinking more along the lines of a single button to record your voice and send it to Scrivener your iPhone or iPad, like a dictaphone.
A usage scenario could be you’re walking through town and all of a sudden an idea pops into your head -
Currently, I’d either think “I must write that down!” and then forget it, or I’d quickly move to the side so that I can get my phone out, unlock it and make a note. During which I get in the way of several other people, block someone’s view of the stuff in the shop window and worry about someone nicking my iPhone.
In this same scenario, but armed with a dictaphone companion app for Scrivener I could just keep walking, lift my sleeve and quickly speak the idea into my wrist. By the time I’ve lowed my arm this could have sent my voice recording to the iOS Scrivener app on my phone. Once there the phone could use the built-in dictation feature to turn my voice into text and import it into the Scrivener Scratch Pad. It could also be worthwhile attaching a copy of the audio file in case the area where I was was noisy (or I mumbled too much) and it didn’t dictate what I said properly.
That would be useful to me and to other’s I’m sure.
I don’t think anyone’s happy about that, and we’re incredibly regretful that we made the mistake of talking about the iOS development too early in the game and floating expected release dates that were woefully overoptimistic. The whole experience has been a painful lesson in discretion, and we’re trying to be more careful and realistic with our development news.
I’m sorry you’ve been disappointed in your expectations. We don’t regard Scrivener’s Mac and Windows versions as lacking because there’s no iOS version, and the mobile version isn’t meant to somehow “complete” the software. If Scrivener’s features don’t meet your needs or the pros don’t outweigh the cons, obviously you should use a different software.
Regardless, please be respectful of others. You have your needs and opinions, and other users have theirs. You’re welcome to post negative feedback on the forums, but please keep it civil.
I’m surprised and dismayed by Gregsnowblow’s comment.
I know each to their own, however, having evaluated Ulysses against Scrivener on the Mac, I’m confident that the combination of Scrivener for Mac/Win and iOS when it arrives will be BY FAR the superior.
I know Keith has been most civil and complimentary in his discussion of Ulysses, however as a very satisfied Scrivener user, and less than satisfied evaluator of Ulysses, and to a lesser extent Storyist, I feel open to saying it as I see it.
Gregsnowblow may have different needs to mine and others, however his comment smacks of ‘cutting of your nose to spite your face’. (IMHO) Why settle for second (or third) best just to make an ungracious point?
Good luck to you Greg.
All that said, yes the whole Scrivener iOS experience has been a lesson in how not to handle the project, however I look forward to the release of an exceptional product. I know some was out of the team’s control.
Just thinking though, the new Macbook is so light as to give pause…