I bow my head to your superior wisdom and go hide my peanuts in shame. Maybe I can take my superior air … whilst relative … and my grandiose statements and shove it somewhere the sun doesn’t shine.
Please forgive me for trespassing. Although name calling was not necessary.
As I have my answer and by now the complete disapproval of this entire community, I will take my leave and seek other fora to vent my air of superiority (relative) and grandiose statements.
En alhoewel ik erg veel respect heb voor de mensen die er oneindig veel meer van af weten dan ik, vind ik het toch erg jammer dat een mens niet gewoon enkele vragen kan stellen, enkele statements kan maken zonder weggejaagd te worden.
Eek, only just saw the rest of this thread. While I disagree with zenmonkey’s opinion of the MacBook and don’t share his opinion of the iPad, I think he was treated a little harshly here - and in that regard I apologise if my own responses came off particularly harsh rather than “fed-up-of-iPad-ish”. (But I see that zenmonkey has, sadly, deleted all his responses, so perhaps I’ve missed something.)
I don’t like the term “noob” much as it is rather disparaging and could put off, er, newbies. Although it’s not a bad idea to trim things down, I generally like to leave forum threads open and let them meander. Obviously I’d prefer it if new users searched the boards to find answers before posting questions (this isn’t directed at zenmonkey but at the comments about the proliferation of iPhone/iPad threads), and if I had more time to “police” the boards it would certainly be better if I could shepherd them all into some consolidated threads, but in reality these things don’t happen… (Just look at the number of Pages integration requests.) And I’m sure we’d all rather new users feel free to ask questions rather than feel too intimated to do so.
I must apologize for involving “the community” in my personal point. After rereading my reply I see that it is gravely exaggerated to make conclusions to a community based on a single comment. So please accept my apologies for all who has taken this personal. I was just trying to defend myself and must have reacted too fast.
No offense was meant and no small animals where harmed during the drive by shouting.
So, shake hands and make up?
I wish you all a very fruitful and creative life.
cheers
(some witty signature involving monkeys, zenbuddhism and loosing eyesight.)
I wish I could find this level of maturity elsewhere on the internets. I’m impressed with everyone involved in this discussion for being willing and able to make nice after being offended/annoyed. Too often, I’ve seen minor turns of phrase conflated into perceived insults on a poster’s thoughts, appearance and very existence. And on the rare occasions where discussions here do devolve into name-calling and disparaging theories on a person’s lineage, it’s almost always in reference to vic-k, and therefore in good fun.
Now I must go and post to another forum, where some troglodyte has claimed that Ninjas have even the remotest chance of subduing a pirate ship and it’s crew.
Which merely illustrates how strong the desire for iPad support is, right?
I remember (and can understand) the reasons why iPad support doesn’t exist. But the inability to grab my iPad and edit a chunk of text is the only real annoyance I have with Scrivener. As much as I sympathize with your annoyance, I have my own opposite annoyance. So it goes, eh?
It’s also annoying that there is no RTF support on the iPad.
FWIW, the iPad is the center of my creative life, and it is physically capable as a content creation platform (i create animations both hand drawn and more formally constituted, I edit movies, I sketch and create grpahic art, I take - sometimes copious - notes). I just can’t edit anything I’ve written because Scrivener content can’t be touched on the iPad. So I carry my 17" laptop everywhere I go, as well as my iPad. I think of your dilemma every time I leave the house - that’s my side of the annoyance equation.
If you should ever have the time to address this, the bare minimum that is required is the ability to open a text chunk and edit it, then put it back. I do this with Dropbox for the (minimal) text I have to write in MS Word for cooperative projects with non-Scrivener types. So I understand the value proposition quite well, which only increases my pain.
Have you read any of my other replies? Or my posts elsewhere? Or my blog post? You know, the bits about how Scrivener 2.0 has Simplenote and Dropbox-useful-for-use-with-the-upcoming-PlainText-for-iPad-app?
I see stuff about that from time to time; so far, the stuff that was posted (at least that I have managed to find; I’m doing a dropbox search right now) fell too far short to be practical. Typically, the required steps get in the way of maintaining creative flow. But it’s been a bit, in fact I’m here hoping to uncover some better news. If one does not spend frequent time in the forum (and I’'m not able to do that; I go long stretches working my butt off with never enough time ), it’s hard to find your way around.
let’s see what I can find. It’s the nature of a forum that things get scattered. I wrote that reply because I hadn’t found anything useful. I’m especially having a hard time finding out what is going to be in Scrivener 2 - am I missing something there? Have you got a description up somewhere, or is it still in flux? The only thing I’ve found so far as from way back, last year.
It sounds like most of the tips you’ve gleaned are from the iPad for Writing/Research thread, which primarily discusses what can be done now, and yes I would agree that right now there is a good deal of “mechanics” involved—all over the place, not just with Scrivener, it’s still a very new workflow and platform. The new system under discussion will work seamlessly with Simplenote or file & folder based services like Dropbox. You’ll need to set it up a bit the first time, but after that keeping these two resources in sync will be extremely simple, and no more creatively jarring than opening Scrivener, I’d say.
I have indeed only hinted at what’s to come so far - but I have said that some stuff is coming in 2.0 that will do much of what you want. I haven’t announced the exact featureset yet and won’t until early September.
As for the desire for the iPad version, as I have said elsewhere, it is nothing compared to the desire for a Windows version, and has significantly tapered off since more people have become accustomed to what the iPad actually does. But I’m not getting involved in that discussion again, as it’s been done here to death!
Although it’s not a bad idea to trim things down, I generally like to leave forum threads open and let them meander. Obviously I’d prefer it if new users searched the boards to find answers before posting questions (this isn’t directed at zenmonkey but at the comments about the proliferation of iPhone/iPad threads), and if I had more time to “police” the boards it would certainly be better if I could shepherd them all into some consolidated threads, but in reality these things don’t happen… (Just look at the number of Pages integration requests.) And I’m sure we’d all rather new users feel free to ask questions rather than feel too intimated to do so.
