Section Type = Structure Based results in different section types for the same structure

[brianjliew]

Scenario

I have a project with three books in it. All three books are under ‘Manuscript’ as their own folders. They each then have chapters as folders and the chapters have the scenes. This file started off from the “Novel with Parts” template

Like this:

Manuscript
  Book 1
    Chapter 1
      Scene 
      Scene
      ...
   Chapter 2
   Chapter 3
   ...
  Book 2
    Chapter 1
      Scene 
      Scene
      ...
   Chapter 2
   Chapter 3
   ...
  Book 3
    Chapter 1
      Scene 
      Scene
      ...
   Chapter 2
   Chapter 3
   ...

In Project Settings > Section Types > Default Types By Structure I have:

Root Folders                   : N/A              - Manuscript
  Level 1 Folders              : Part Headings    - Books
    Level 2 Folders            : Chapter Heading  - Chapters
      ⋮
      Level 3 Files and deeper : Scene

When I select Level 2 Folders in that dialog, all the correct folders are selected in the binder.

Problem

According to both:

• the Metadata tab of the Inspector and
• the right hand side of the Compile dialog,

the folders are interpreted as:

• Book 1 ‘chapters’ are Part Headings
• Book 2 ‘chapters’ are Part Headings
• Book 3 ‘chapters’ are Chapter Headings

I did not set these. They are displayed in italics and when I click on the drop down to select the type, it is clear that Structure-based is the current selection.

Questions

Why is Book 3 correct while Book 1 and Book 2 have the wrong derived types?

How can I fix this?

[kewms]

Please attach a screenshot of your actual Binder. (I’ll check your trust settings to make sure you can.) The most likely cause is that the Book 3 chapters are at a different level in the hierarchy.

[brianjliew]

As requested.

Book 2 is collapsed because it would make the image way too long. But when expanded, it looks the same as the above and below items.

[GoalieDad]

You can go to project settings and Section types and use Default type by structure to see if your section types are right. you could also do in the Outliner and check Section type as a column to view. Examples below of Acts (parts), Chapters, and Scenes.

and here is the Outliner way of looking at it.

[brianjliew]

Yes, I mentioned checking the project settings in my original post. All the chapter folders are selected in the binder as expected when I select Level 2 folders.

And things look fine in the outliner view, too.

[GoalieDad]

Then look at the compile third panel and see if using a collection (ie want to compile one book) or is the filter active?

[brianjliew]

This is what I’m doing:

Not using a filter. As you can see ’Storm’ is Part Heading which is wrong.

And here is book 3:

As you can see ‘Watcher’ is Chapter Heading

And here is what the transition from Book 2 to Book 3 looks like if I select Compile: Manuscript*

Book 2’s ‘Memories’ is a Part Heading
Book 3’s ‘Prologue’ is a Chapter Heading

[AmberV]

It’s a bit unlikely, given how this feature works, but something to check is to right-click on the book that has misbehaving child items, and check its Section Type settings to ensure it isn’t overriding subdocuments to use “Part Heading”, in the lower half of that submenu.

[brookter]

From the screenshots, you’ve got a mixture of automatic (structure-based - in italics) and manually-set (non-italics) section types - look at the difference Sanctuary and Etifogeny, for example. This could be causing the problem.

Easiest way to test: expand the Binder so you see every level and select them all, then right click and choose Section Type > Structure based.

If you’ve set the structure up properly in Project > Project Settings > Section Types that should work.

[brianjliew]

Thanks @AmberV! That was it. I didn’t even know that was a thing that could be done.