Should I change from OneNote to EverNote

I have used OneNote since it came out and it is a great addition and supplement when working in Word.
The capture feature is a great help at times and I was happy with the catagorizing of data. The big downside to me is the lack of compatibility with Scrivener when sharing data.
While I have a huge amount of writing related info stuffed into OneNote there is the option of links which is a somewhat clumsy way of sharing.

How would Evernote improve the collection and handling of data, etc. from this point forward?

Thank you

Jim

Cripes Folks,

29 views and no opinions??

I loaded the Evernote thing and was pleasantly surprised to find it imported OneNote files as editable text files. This without even opening OneNote as long as I know the needed data location. Very quick, handy and saves exporting to Word and moving again.

I see a move to Evernote on the horizon and the transferring of regularly used data from Onenote to be used as needed in Scrivener.

Thanks for the support. I just know many of you were burning valuable time sitting on the tippy edge of your chair biting your nails in anticipation of the outcome to this challenging and life style altering issue.

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Hugs and Treats for All

Jim

I am a committed Evernote user, but am only very new to Scriverner, and have never used OneNote so cannot comment on the differences.

Regarding its use as a repository of info/stuff/memories. I have over 4 thousand notes, and its search tools are fantastic.

Great, I was hoping to hear good reports on it.

I procrastinated for a couple of months before loading it.

Thanks

Hi, I don’t see clearly the functional advantage of Evernote versus Onenote, except for data entry with mobile device.
In Onenote (2010) the capture of information is powerfull, and also the search (which is able to find words in pictures). The ability to tag information and to list all the tags helps to manage a tasks list (E.g topics to research, ideas to detail…) and to link some tasks to Outlook permit to see them in the calendar for instance.

W.

I prefer Evernote to OneNote because of its cross-platform availability. You can capture data from many sources – browser plug-in, smartphone camera, typing, drag-and-drop – and access those notes from just about anywhere.

My extended family is planning a big trip over the holidays. We’ve been using Evernote to keep everyone posted about travel plans and activities. It’s been nice not having to worry about who’s using which device or operating system. Even those who hadn’t previously used Evernote have been able to access the notebook from any web browser.

I don’t understand what would be gained by switching to Evernote, either. For many of the simple uses, these two programs are basically the same, but OneNote goes way deeper than Evernote if you need it to, and once you buy it, it is yours for life. You don’t have to continually pay a subscription fee to go on using your software to the fullest potential.

I think that sounds like a fine usage of the service. I wasn’t under the impression the OP was looking for this kind of thing though; more like a master archive. OneNote would be a poor choice for a family’s private web forum (and I’d be using WWW technology for that, rather than a proprietary service, but that’s just me!).

Cross-platform isn’t nearly as important when it comes to a master archive. Then you just want the best tool for the job, and can rely upon a satellite technique for collection, filtering, and archival. That can include everything from a Moleskine and a pen, to an e-mail account, to something like Evernote. I wouldn’t even directly link the satellites to the archive though. Filtering is too important.

Ioa, I was a heavy OneNote user myself, but then I got a Mac (in strong part so I could use Scrivener, which was Mac-only at the time). Having to run Windows in VMWare Fusion every time I wanted to add a note got real old, real fast, and then it was a pain in the tush to move everything over to a Mac-based solution. So if you know that you’ll be with Windows until the end of time, OneNote is amazing. But if there’s any chance you’ll need that cross-platform compatibility, Evernote might be a better choice.

OneNote is also great if you do most of your work on one computer that’s readily accessible. Right now, I need to be able to add and access notes while I’m waiting around for my kids at their activities, which means a lot of time away from my desk. I have a MacBook that cannot connect to wifi unless it’s within about six feet of the router (yes, it’s been to the Apple Store several times with no resolution), so I find myself using other devices rather than dragging what’s essentially an oversized brick with me wherever I go.

For me, the key to a master archive is accessibility. The reason I take (or transcribe) all my notes into Evernote – even though I love Moleskines (and fountain pens and colorful post-it notes and…) – is so I can access those notes from anywhere at any time. I don’t have to remember which notebook or app contains that great story idea or a snippet of research. And I can organize and filter all those notes into a system that makes sense to me, rather than flipping through notebook pages until I come across what I seek.

And I hear you about there being better solutions for my family’s trip planning. It actually came about because my anal retentive planning gene (keeping all our info in Evernote so I’d have it close at-hand on my iPhone while we travel) happened to mirror that of my cousin, so we just shared notebooks rather than reinvent the wheel. Setting up another solution and getting all three generations to use it just seemed beyond the scope of this project. :smiley:

Right, I’m a Mac user as well, so I don’t actually use OneNote (or Evernote, I don’t much care for rigid systems and use a plain-text filing system of my own design), but I do wonder if I would use it for some things if there was a Mac version. It’s a pity Microsoft never ported that, because its the only thing out of Office that doesn’t make me cringe. Maybe not now though, since one of the things I do like about it over others is the freeform text editor where you can write all over the page. Now Scapple satisifies that particular form of thought development and capture.

I guess my point to the OP was that if you’ve got a good system, why switch unless you have a couple of extremely compelling reasons to. I hear the “everywhere access” argument (though my personality is not in the least bit compelled by that, and in fact wonders if it is detrimental to the process, but I recognise other people are big fans), but the OP didn’t even mention that. Their concern was primarily integration with Scrivener, and I don’t think spending tons of time converting one’s system to Evernote is going to solve that problem. There are better alternatives if the primary goal is integration with Scrivener.

That sounds like a blessing to me! I used to get out of the house specifically to get away from the Internet. :slight_smile: That’s becoming increasingly impossible to do unless you bring a device that doesn’t hook up, like an AlphaSmart.

Agreed, which is where a system of plain-text files work extremely well. If I wanted to, I could make my system accessible everywhere. Just drop the folder with all of the text files into Dropbox, and now I am Living in the World of Tomorrow.

I do agree with that too, and that’s why I convert much of what I want to save into my file system, rather than leaving them in the original applications (or on the Web). E-mails, forum posts, articles I enjoyed reading, and so forth all end up in one place under one system, it works great for me.

Oh, sorry! I didn’t mean to imply your system wasn’t a good one. That sounds like a good use of Evernote and technology in general, to me.

Being unable to connect to the internet definitely has its advantages when I’m trying to get words on the page. But it’s not so great when I also have an editor sending multiple emails every day about a different project or trip planning and such. I’ll be a very happy camper when life slows down a bit and I can shut out the internet and just write!

Well, my love affair with Evernote has just been dashed with cold water.
Using Windows XP and IE which is recognized by Web Clipper upon install.
The Clipper does not work and indicates Evernote is not running even though I am signed in and the Evernote page is up.

Did I dress funny this morning or what??

Haven’t found a forum at this time which admits to knowing about this.

Thanks

Jim

Hello Jim,

I use Evernote all the time and really love it. The Clipper works fine for me - I use Google Chrome.

To get help with this, visit the Evernote forum. Lots of people there that would be happy to help out.
discussion.evernote.com/

Thanks, I’ll straighten my tie and give it another try… :wink:

I’m using scrivener for exactly the use case of onenote and evernote. In linux.

I agree, I think Scrivener does a fantastic job of providing what both of these programs provide, with the exception of some of the convenience stuff. If you don’t require the convenience features, then the core works great. I find the concept of documents being composed of many smaller documents to be perfect for notes. It’s really, in a less fancy way, what OneNote gets at with its binder.tab.page metaphor, but I think Scrivener’s less graphical approach to it lets you dig even deeper.

For me the biggest benefit of Evernote is how easy it is to get anything (no matter what) into it.

I have an inbox notebook that everything I put in goes to. I then regularly process those notes to tag them or put them in the right place.

I have it on my iPhone, iPad, both my PCs, and it’s accessible on any pc that has internet. Contrary to what someone said, it is FREE to use for life (unless you want to put a huge amount of stuff in there).And the limit is monthly upload, not total amount stored.

I use it for storing everything I think I will ever need again. From my gas bills, to my thoughts, to my todos, to ideas for books. When I’m researching something on the web, I just clip pages I find. When I have something in an email, I just send the email to evernote.

Getting stuff in - could not be easier.

Getting stuff out - is where it comes into its own. The search capabilities are second to none. Even down to being able to search for text in photographs or hand written notes I’ve sent to evernote.

Cannot recommend it enough.

I have just had to junk One Note since Microsoft informed me that my trial period has ended (it hasn’t – I bought the MS Office program outright) and that I need to move to the Cloud via Windows Live and pay a regular fee to continue using. I’m too busy to sort out the problem, but would be grateful for advice if anyone has had a similar experience. Instead, I have gone back to an ancient and very reliable program called Yeah Write, which dates back to Windows 3 but still works flawlessly in Windows 8. It was sold as a word processor, but can easily be turned into a database because it accepts hypertext. I put pdfs, jpgs and all sorts of things into a big file and link the addresses. I can then call up anything with a click or two, and transfer to Scrivener. That, and Scapple, is about all I use these days, plus Dropbox to transfer files.

Not sure what message or why you’re seeing it. But OneNote is free for everyone now:

http://winsupersite.com/office-2013/its-official-onenote-now-free-everyone

I’m using it on Mac, Android, Linux (Chrome browser plugin) and … Windows.

Fred

I use OneNote because I know it better; nine times out of ten, the software that’s most familiar is the one to use, simply because it doesn’t get in the way of writing. Having said that, my reasons (if you’re interested) are that I like the notebook/section/pages metaphor; Evernote’s “stacks” are too free-form and messy for me, but then I’m probably just being obsessive – if you like a nice, open-plan filing system on your (physical) desk, Evernote may suit you very well.

OneNote is also very tightly integrated with Outlook, which I use for all my emails, calendars, reminders, etc. If you don’t use it, that’s no advantage, but I like making meeting notes on my Surface Pro using OneNote and being able to go through them afterwards and just drag and drop things into my Outlook “to do” list, etc.

Finally, OneNote is now on Macs, including iOS, Windows Phone and Android. Slightly annoyingly, Microsoft keep updating each version out of sync with the others, so a few features (e.g. password-protected pages) aren’t currently in the Android version, etc. but the core funcionality is common to all platforms. I use the Android version on my phone, which allows me to take a picture of something while I’m researching, add a note as to what, when and where it was, and then open the page later on my “real” computer (desktop PC). Works a treat.

Having said all that, I keep my OneNote and Scrivener projects largely separate at present; may change as I get to know Scrivener better.

Just as a point of reference; there are now over 600 views, and only 19 replies (20 counting this one). This holds the ratio at over 30 views per reply. I expect this is typical; not everyone who views a thread out of curiosity has anything useful to contribute. Please don’t take a lack of response as a snubbing; it could very well be a desire not to add irrelevant noise to the beginning of a discussion. Adding irrelevant noise after a discussion has reached a conclusion is de rigueur on these forums, however. Often, it devolves into the great pie vs. cake debate. Choose your side wisely.