South Korea is over

Oh, I know. And I see it as a good thing. When women have bodily autonomy and expect their children to survive infancy, birth rates fall.

The answer, though, is not to strip fundamental rights from half the population, but to build a society that isn’t predicated on an endless supply of young workers. Among other things, that might mean investments in preventative care so that elderly people retain autonomy for longer, and automation to assist with tasks that they can no longer do.

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I am not in charge of the S. Korean government, or any government for that matter. I am just an observer not a policy maker.

Governments have been known to do stupid things. For example China is in the same boat as S Korea because they shot themselves in the gonads with the “1 child policy” which they are now desprately trying to reverse with little success so far.

“Quantitatively, periods of unrest included many times more events of instability per decade and occurred when the population was declining, rather than increasing.” Societal collapse - Wikipedia

One of the contributing factors of the crisis of the middle ages was demographic collapse caused by loss of population because of the Black Death, and famine.

As for the housing market:

"The problem of empty housing is plaguing Europe for years now. A report by the European Federation of National Organisations working with the Homeless (Feantsa) in 2016 estimated that one in six properties in Europe were vacant – equal to around 38 million empty homes. In Greece, Portugal and Bulgaria, Feantsa estimated that one in every four properties were empty."The empty house: a window into Europe’s vacant property problem | Investigate Europe

And accusations of “misogyny” is so tired and hackneyed.

There is a serious gender wars going on in S Korea. Most of the articles about it in MSM are with a feminist bias as in this example so keep that in mind:

Basically the current Left - Right divide is Females on the Left and Males on the Right. This is mirrored globally. So with so much emotion and hate in the mix what do you think will happen when push comes to shove? Who do you think will win? I suspect that the same people (males) who gave women rights will take them away. Ask the ladies in Afghanistan what happened to their “rights.”

This is not something new and has happened in history many times. J.D. Unwin gives several examples in his book Sex and Culture starting on page 379.

And while S. Korea is a democracy China, which is in the same boat as S Korea, is not and can impose whatever decree it wants to if they deem it necessary. And they do see demographic winter as an existential threat. With them everything goes. They already started in 2011 by making marital laws favor men instead of women to encourage men to marry. What sane man would marry with the current marriage laws? And they scrapped the one child policy. And are trying all kinds of incentives to increase the TFR (as are many other countries). But these are having little or no effect. So unless things turn around soon I suspect that they will implement more and more drastic measures in face of what they percieve as an existential threat.

Again, I am just an observer not a policy maker.

Yes, a completely unbiased observer who somehow sees the removal of fundamental rights from half the population as the only potential solution.

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Then why suggesting any measures to begin with?

And as we all know Europe never recovered from that, it basically fell into obscurity, playing no global role after the middle ages. :disguised_face:

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting here. Exporting houses to Korea? Or moving Koreans to empty European homes?

When it comes from me you know that you fucked it up. :smile:

I don’t see how countering any political bias with a diametrically opposed political bias fixes anything. What you propose sounds like a recipe for making people even more miserable.

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