[Suggestion] GUI colors problem (scrivener needs to stop using Windows theme colors completely)

I was told I should repost this thread in this area of the forum instead, so here I am.

Basically, I’m imploring Scrivener’s development team to stop using the GUI colors from whatever Windows theme the user is using. I’ve asked about this years ago but was told no, but I was told the same thing about my suggestion for a multi-storyline index card layout, and now it’s a major feature of the new version.

So, here’s the issue. First look at these two screenshots. First one is version 2, and the next one is the new version 3 beta.


(Sorry about blurring the text–for some reason resizing alone wasn’t enough and the texts were still readable, and this is unpublished work.)

Notice how in the outline view, the text in the “title” column is darker (a gray instead of white). This is because Scrivener is simply using the text color from my Windows theme. That is not ideal because I customize my Windows theme specifically for my operating system’s usage needs, not for writing fiction. When I’m working on my writing, I have a different set of needs, and Scrivener should allow me to customize my writing software specifically for my writing needs. It is always undesirable when any software that allow you to customize the appearance down to the level of text and background colors, but then still force you to use some of the colors from your selected Windows theme. This really screws up whatever customizing parameters you were planning on using specifically for that software. If you’re going to allow us to customize our own templates with our own colors, then allow us to change everything that matters, because you have no way of knowing what our Windows theme might be and the colors from it might be undesirable for writing workspace.

Ideally, Scrivener will allow us to customize the text color not just in the editor, but also the binder and outliner views too, so we can coordinate the text color to our customized color labels for maximum readability and planning needs.

Another thing is the lack of a “dark theme” in scrivener. For people who can’t stand looking at bright backgrounds while working on the computer, not being able to get rid of bright backgrounds in the GUI is just torture for us–it actually hurts our eyes and gives us headaches. If you’re not bothered by it then you’ll never understand how much it affects us. There’s a reason why in many software and apps people have begged for dark themes for years but too often software developers just ignore us (Evernote being one of them). They ignore us because we’re not numerous enough for them to give a shit about our eye-sensitivity problems.

In the new beta, the collections/search results tabs now only have bright background, whereas in the previous version, it used the custom color label colors as background, which is much better, because it gets rid of the bright background, and it also allows much easier visual identification.

Also notice how the top menu strip and the text formatting toolbar is almost impossible to read due to the text color not working well with the Windows Theme I’m using. This wouldn’t be a problem if Scrivener stopped using whatever Windows theme colors the person is using and just used its own set of GUI colors that’s independent from the Windows theme. Plenty of software do this so I don’t see why Scrivener can’t do this.

I have brought this up numerous times in the past, and I had given up on ever seeing it addressed, but after seeing the new corkboard feature of being able to arrange index cards by label, I’m encouraged, because that was a feature I had begged for too, but after long discussions here in the forums, I was told it’s never going to happen because it fundamentally cannot work with Scrivener’s document arrangement structure. Yet here we are–somehow the developers made it work. So I figured I can’t just give up and need to continue to speak up and have my voice heard, for the hope that one day I will see my other suggestions/needs addressed in the future.

While I prefer that Scrivener adhere to Windows theme colors by default, it has been really helpful and eye-sparing to be able to customize as many of Scriv’s background and text colors as possible.

Now piggybacking on the thread…

In the Beta, the Custom Meta Data section appears to be hard-coded to a white background, quite distracting in my low-contrast environment. I’m sure that’s just the development process but nonetheless here’s a gentle nudge for its conformity with the rest of the program.

Rgds – Jerome