TOC Cumbersome

If I’m not mistaken, in order to include a title in a TOC, we are forced to create a page break before that text/folder. That’s not good for an ebook. Ebooks should have as little page breaks as possible, preferably none to have a good flow. Why this page break? Just have a check-box: “include title in TOC”.

I’m not sure where you heard that, but section breaks (as opposed to CSS generated page breaks or the old MobiPocket code—neither of which we support) are actually pretty important, especially for long works like your typical non-fiction or novel e-book. If you have your entire book in one technical section that will cause your book to feel sluggish on most super minimal e-ink readers as the entire book must be loaded at once, rather than smaller (most likely chapter-sized) sections.

(for the windows version)

I also have since the beginning of using your great program that “page break” problem for my TOC and would be so glad if you could finally think about a solution like a button or option to put also a thing/title/text into the TOC which has not (!) a page break before but only a line or whatever.

Since weeks and weeks I searched the internet and this forum and a lot of groups for that solution and saw that a lot of people have same problems with that.

And my case is easy:

I have folders as “chapters” and included text pages as “scenes”, also some single pages which only show a photo per page.

I just want to have control of the TOC that I can show there all my chapters and scenes but for example not the photos in the TOC (photos have page break before because they are on a single page).

And yes, for the chapter (folder) I would like showing the title on top of the text page and 2-3 line breaks below I want the scene title to appear…

but with these line breaks the scene title should also (!) be shown in the TOC as single scene and not only (!) the chapter excluding this first scene of the chapter (the other scenes always have page breaks, so they are always shown actually in the TOC - only the first scene with line breaks is never shown :frowning: ).

actually all that is not possible :frowning:

it would be so great to have more control over the TOC :slight_smile:

cheers, Bernd

Bernd, one thing worth noting is that the implementation on Windows does not yet have one mechanism the Mac version has, for designing your own ToC page. Our approach is very simple: you create it yourself in the Binder, like an ordinary file, with the hyperlinks all set up and formatting the way you prefer. You then designate that file and it is marked in the e-book as being the official ToC page.

Thank you Amber for replying! :slight_smile:

How do you mean “You then designate that file” ?
How and where can I say Scrivener in the Windows version which file in the binder should be the official TOC in the e-book?

By the way I finally found my own solution after weeks (if someone else would be interested):

I open my already compiled Epub in the programm SIGIL (which I anyway always need to change there the title of the TOC “contents” to the German word “Inhalt”).

In SIGIL I found out how to change the TOC to solve my problem. First go to the TOC.

Then I copy the normal first “sequence” “landing page” to paste them again above itself, changing the “sequence” title to the “chapter” title.

tattaaaaa, we finally get in the Epub a TOC with all the chapters shown and you can click all chapters and sequences.

And you still have on ONE page the CHAPTER and the FIRST sequence title 2-3 lines later on the page…

:slight_smile:

You cannot, that is what I meant by, “…Windows does not yet have one mechanism the Mac version has, for designing your own ToC page”.

But, as you note, ePub files are editable. We fully expect people to spend time polishing up the final result after compiling. Scrivener can only make so many assumptions, and provide so many tools and checkboxes. Our goal is to make things easy as possible for you to tweak the final result.