We’re talking about you because you were the one invoking the false equivalency. I merely read between the lines. I noticed in a different thread you were requesting that no political posts be made in this forum, and yet you are the first to jump into the fray when a political post is made.
You’re going to have to be less terse. I have no idea what this is trying to say.
Not for me to say. I can say for certainty that conservatives overwhelming prefer dominance over cooperation, as every conservative action and piece of legislation aptly demonstrates. This is a recipe for an increasingly violent and fractured society.
So your solution now is to revert to colonial solutions to the problems of modernity? Won’t work. A ‘revolution’ in this instance — if that’s what you’re suggesting — would by definition be a civil war, and we know how well the last one worked out for you guys.
Well yes. To the extent that they are abusing the poor for their own gains, that is exactly what I’m saying. You don’t get to claim the progressive principles of fairness and equality in name only. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it must be a conservative.
This could take a while:
First, my point was that the United States, with the misreading of the Second Amendment and a legislature in the pocket of the NRA — and the resulting and staggeringly criminal lack of effective gun laws — as a country is in the grips of a conservative nightmare. Whether the school shootings happen in California or on the steps of the White House makes no difference. It’s all the result of sociopathic, conservative thought processes.
Secondly, the comparison between now and the old west is either intentionally dull or just plain idiotic. Of course there are more mass shootings now. There are more schools and more people in them. Large swaths of the population have moved from rural to urban areas. Mass media has forever altered the understanding and mindset of the entire population. Such a comparison is beyond useless. Again you seem to be pretending that if we just turn back the clock to a bygone era that everything would be ok. Time doesn’t work that way. For a useful statistic we can look here: School Shootings by Country 2023
Let me pull out the most salient part:
19 Countries with the Most School Shootings (total incidents Jan 2009-May 2018 - CNN):
With a straight face can you look at those statistics and not see that we’re doing something wrong? This can only be the result of American attitudes about guns. Period. If the second listing was 225 shootings and third listing was 167 or something, then we could reasonably talk about nuances. But we jump from 288 to 8. And that was in Mexico!
Yep. I think you did.