Windows announcement only for windows users?

I find it amusing that the Windows announcement on the home page is only visible when you are viewing the page on a Windows box. Since I generally only visit the site from my Mac, it makes me wonder how long the announcement has been up.

Are you sure you don’t just need to refresh the page on your Mac? I’m looking at it right now in Safari…

Yeah, I just figured that out. The page was cached (despite reloading the page multiple times).

I initially thought it was intentional, and I thought it was a little funny. There was no official announcement in the forums yet either, so I wasn’t sure what was going on. Turns out I caught the site just as the info was being posted.

FYI, Reload doesn’t always do what you’d expect. This … your_cache tells you how to force an actual reload from the remote site on all browsers.

Usually shift-reload or CTRL-reload on the major browsers. Why this behaviour isn’t the default is a bafflement to me.

Can I buy stock in Scrivener before the Windows release? You are going to make a killing. And rightfully so. I lub lub lub Scrivener.

Thanks grimmbro, much appreciated! I’ve really no idea how the Windows version will do, though - I’m quite nervous about it simply because Lee has put two years of his life into it and abandoned a lucrative job because he was keen to do something he loved rather than something he just got paid for… So I really hope it does well! Mac writers have been really nice about Scrivener, but with the Windows version it feels like starting all over again.

Thanks again and all the best,


Thanks for the advice, but I already knew how to force a reload, it’s just that I don’t have to do it very often, so it didn’t even occur to me.

Actually, in this case, forcing a reload still didn’t completely fix the problem, and neither did shutting down the browser and re-opening it. The old cached version just kept popping up. Emptying my cache fixed the problem permanently.

In case you’re wondering, Safari 5.0.2 on OS X 10.6.4. Everything’s up-to-date here.

The default behaviour is quite necessary. :slight_smile: In most cases the client-server refresh model works fine, the cache is used to store as much offline material as possible, increasing browsing speed and reducing network overhead. Most of the time, timestamps work and local cache files are updated if they become outdated. Yes, there are glitches, but if every single browser accessing the Internet requested full no-cache resets every single time they hit a web page, we’d probably all collectively bring the Internet to its knees. Caching doesn’t just speed you up, it protects the servers from having to send out the same high-bandwidth files out over and over again.

I did know all that I just wasn’t thinking. Sigh!

Hi! Just got news of the Windows release a few minutes ago. Signed up on the forum here a few moments after squee’ing after watching the preview video. Yes, I’m still saving for a Mac and the relicense of all the Windows software, but still.

Just wait until word gets out.

Just as a hint that might save some money for you in the shorter-term: you can buy Parallels for Mac and clone your PC over the network (making it into a virtual machine), and have all of your windows programs available on your mac without buying any additional licenses. When you have to do paid upgrades for those pieces of software, you can instead convert to the Mac versions (assuming there are mac versions), or replace them with Mac equivalents once you’ve recovered from the initial outlay of cash for the computer itself.

KB - You aren’t starting over at all. The Scriv/Mac community is dedicated and seasoned, and many of us are not only fans of the software, but of you, your development philosophy, and the way you treat us. Collectively, we know many, many more writers who will become new users (of Scriv/Win, Scriv/Mac 2.0, or both) through word of mouth. Scrivener is easy to recommend.

I second this. :smiley:

This is not directed at anyone but more of an explanation of KB’s feelings from the desk of a fellow “tech head”.

Folks often see “technical” jobs as unartistic. Especially jobs like software development. This view is incorrect. What KB is experiencing is the same feelings that a infrequently published author has when they are submitting a new manuscript. “Will they like it?” “Will it live up to expectations?” Scrivener is a work of passion, a labor of love, a product of blood, sweat and tears (sweat and tears anyway). He is tossing it into the brutal world of windows development.

So KB, your loyal customers will be continue to be loyal.

I also think there will be plenty of new customers that will be exposed to the “pirate ship”.

Yarrrrghhhh we are going to need a bigger boat!

Thanks for the recommendation, Robert. I’d wondered about Parallels for such. Virtual machines I’ve used on Windows or Linux have been…well…in line with the performance of the underlying machine, so not necessarily impressive. Not that that’s a criticism per se, just a fact of life that a virtual machine can never be more than the hardware minus the outside overhead.

Really good to hear that Parallels does a fine enough job to make that an option, though! Possibilities and options are good things.

Performance with Parallels isn’t bad. It’s definitely not the same as running the system on its own, but you might be pleasantly surprised. VM technology has come a long way in the past few years. I’d equate using Windows 7 on a MBP to be about like using Windows 7 on a low-end PC laptop. Better than a netbook (especially in regards to display size), but not full MBP speeds. The main source of performance drain is in display, not in processing, which makes for a somewhat weird experience. Dialogue boxes and other windows feel sluggish when dragging them around, but you can still load huge files and do complex things at near full speed.

Parallels will automatically allocate system resources depending on what you are doing. If you are in a Windows application, it allocates enough processor and RAM to make using that application feel as though you are using most of the computer to run it. Switch back to a Mac application, and resources are moved back to OS X. In effect it’s not so much like running two operating systems at once.

Not to argue with Ioa, but there are some tricks you can use to make the experience a little better.

  1. Use a separate bootcamp slice for the windblows vm. A PITA to make, but…
  2. Disable auto allocation of resources and force them to adequate settings. This avoids the switching bumps.
  3. Turn off what you don’t need. Do you really need 3d graphics?

I can go on, but I won’t. That just the way I am. :stuck_out_tongue:

I prefer booting into the OS rather than emulating the OS. A restart only takes around 30 seconds.

True, but emulating allows much more flexibility in usage. Consider sending a manuscript to an editor; wouldn’t it be nice to verify that the compiled doc looks proper in Word for Windows over multiple iterations of “compile draft”?

And I said I wouldn’t argue with Ioa. You are fair game!