This is sort of an odd way of looking at it. LaTeX is a typesetting system, not an editor. So you might use LaTeX to post-process output compiled from Scrivener, but you wouldn’t really use it as your primary writing environment.
I would HAVE to strongly agree with the statement: “LaTeX is a typesetting system, not an editor” … so far what I have seen is that Scrivener and LaTeX are complimentary … but they do so in such a way that the combined result is exponential … it’s not just 1+1=2, more like 10 x 10 = 100!
Don’t get me wrong … LaTeX can be VERY cryptic … I make a LOT of backups … AND I keep at least three to four of my previous versions handy … and I backup EVERY day … there have been multiple DAYS when I’ve stared at compile errors wondering what the $%%^&& is going on … and had to deconstruct what is causing the compile errors … like when I picked up some invisible characters from some text I copied directly off the internet … nasty … (apparently there are entire web sites dedicated to methods for hiding secret messages buried within otherwise normal text) … what a headache!
All that, however, is trivial compared to the power and breath of LaTeX … when combine with Scrivener … and vice versa!
I actually would NOT recommend using LaTeX without Scrivener … for me , Scrivener is indispensable as a front end to LaTeX!
So if you have a REALLY narly need to do something that Scrivener cannot accommodate, go for it … but backup, backup, backup, and keep your earlier compiled versions handy!
I create a new lettered version of my project at the end of every day … and have been reminded numerous times just how valuable those earlier versions can be when the damn thing just won’t compile …
HTH,
scrive
You’re trying to use Scrivener for something it is not designed to do.
I think you’ve exposed your knowledge gap (or just plain spite) there. Scrivener is far from simple and very ambitious. Apart from that, it does exactly what the author claims.
Of course, if you think it is that simple, knock yourself out - write your own ‘simple and unambitious’ app to address your needs … Crickets?
As for your Faboy insult. Satisfied users calling out your uninformed rant doesn’t constitute fanboys.
I’m not sure that’s an insult. I’m a massive fan, and very proud to say so. It certainly doesn’t offend me to be called one.
There are people that bother to visit internet forums for things they’re not fans of?
You’d think so, but just think how many 1 post only’s turn ip to slag Scrivener (or Apple, MS etc on other forums
The equivalent of walking into a crowded pub by yourself, shouting “you people are sad losers, hanging with your friends and talking about things you like” and then leaving.
I can’t see that person’s opinion changing my self image.
Yeah, I already know I’m a loser, no random rogering tosspot is going to affect that.
Just curious but are you, @Nobbo , aware of how rude and condescending your posts come across?
From what I’ve seen, the other users here who have taken the time to respond to your posts have been polite and helpful. The tone of your responses may very well alienate someone who could possibly help you.
No need to reply. It’s just something to think about.
So, you do not think a spell checker and grammar checker are fundamental components of writing software? Please explain this and please explain WHEN EXACTLY it is you would be using your dedicated spelling and grammar applications that you paid so handsomely for?
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I have never seen an “Inverse Search” option, I am using the Windows version and cannot find it.
I want to open dozens of pages, while also having several Binders open - one for navigating and at least one other for organising the layout of my books.
I have at present 5 main books that I want to split further probably into 3 separate books each. I also have 4 “books” that I am using for Notes that have not been formally included in any books, and some sub-workings for other related documents.
Managing all that in Scrivener is proving impossible now and will only be potentially possible if I commit to some serious ignore-all-diversions-and-distractions head-down writing, but I do not like to do that too much, let alone for the whole project!
Scrivener Quick Reference panes are too small. L&L are squishing too much into too small a space - it is a total cock-up! My background is in Warehousing & Logistics and you need to leave room for maneuvering, be that for lorries, forklift trucks or using software packages! Instead of having the ability to open 100 windows or 100 tabs, I am pratting about with about a third of a screen as active space. CRAP! CRAP! CRAP!
Scrivener has spelling and grammar checkers. Though you consider them adequate, they do exist.
Insulting other forum members violates the forum rules. Please moderate your tone accordingly.
I think Keith would be the first to admit he wrote it for himself and is amazed at how well it has done. I think writing something for yourself alone is the very definition of “unambitious”.
I have the Windows version and it has no grammar checker. My tone is fine.
I criticized Scrivener and called Labrador Man a Fanboy for jumping to the defense of a piece of software I think is poorly conceived and fundamentally flawed. If you find that too troublesome, maybe you are being too sensitive.
To make a Quick Reference pane larger (or smaller), just drag an edge as you would in any other window. As with the main window, you can hide the formatting bar, the Ruler, and all metadata components to maximize editing space.
Click near the magnifying glass in the Project Search field to see search options. “Invert Results” is down toward the bottom.
An Outline view can serve as a secondary Binder, for either navigation or organizational purposes. The “Binder Selection Affects” and “Outliner Selection Affects” sections of the Navigate menu are useful for controlling which one opens what.
Just because I’m phrasing it nicely, that doesn’t make observing forum rules optional.
I have looked at LaTex previously and found it lacking, but so many packages are so poorly presented it is often difficult to quickly assess and understand their capabilities. I do not think what I want is out there. I have written to some of the big publishers but they are silent!!! I asked at some book clubs but all their writers and writing small-scale fiction novels. I need to speak to someone who has written something similarly large and non-linear, but it is difficult to get anything done with this nonsense we are being forced to live under right now - and probably not even worth it given the way things are trending. Maybe I should write a book about how to cope with adverse vaccine reactions while being an unswervingly dedicated and compliant idiot. Bestseller stuff!
As I understood it, LaTex is used in academia to write very structured formal manuscripts. I am trying to find out what the next step up from Scrivener is - I need something more powerful and adaptable. Scrivener isn’t the only software out there, and books were being written long before it existed…
I am trying to write a connected series of big books. If Scrivener isn’t up to that, then it is Scrivener’s poor design that’s to blame. PCs and Macs are super powerful now, there is no excuse for limiting the size of what something like Scrivener is capable of within its domain. It should be capable of dealing with OED or Britannica-sized documents. These are essentially the same as all other books, just bigger and in series. The idea of tabs and windows has been around for decades, yet Scrivener crams everything into a very simple user space that soon becomes impossible to use when dealing with large, non-linear books.