# Writers, Coffee, and Safety **URL:** \ **Category:** And Now For That Latte\ **Created:** [October 31, 2026, 4:42am UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985 "2026-10-31T04:42:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/MJiJi)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2026, 4:42am UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/1 "2026-10-31T04:42:19Z")
Yes, a strange topic title, but a serious topic for anyone that may be writing and using that legal ‘stay awake’ liquid called coffee. > **[Bodum USA Recalls 5.9 Million French Press Coffee Makers with Replaceable...](https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2027/Bodum-USA-Recalls-5-9-Million-French-Press-Coffee-Makers-with-Replaceable-Glass-Carafes-Due-to-Risk-of-Serious-Burn-Injury)** > > Consumers should stop using metal spoons or utensils to stir coffee in the glass carafe immediately and contact Bodum to receive a plastic Bodum stirring spoon and warning label. The label reminds consumers not to use cracked or damaged carafes and... My understanding is this recall can take us back to as far as 1974, for date of initial manufacturing. AND, 5.9 million is a whole bunch of homes and/or offices. AND those of you that do this writing stuff for a job, or even for fun, might just be big into sipping on coffee; so maybe have one of these coffee makers and so now I am being a responsible citizen of this Community and making note of this safety issue. ---
**Author:** ![MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/MJiJi)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2026, 1:23am UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/2 "2026-11-01T01:23:52Z")
Strange to reply to one’s own post, but a thought hit me about that plastic spoon they are sending out. What do you reckon the odds are that in about 5 years they do a recall on all the plastic spoons because the lab folks found out that teeny tiny plastic pieces get into your coffee? I mean, here in Japan we’ve been getting information that the popular PET bottles have been introducing weird stuff into us in some manner. Give humans another thousand years and they will have organs laced with artificial coatings of some sort and so live for hundreds of years. Now there’s a great script for one of you movie writers: Human PET. ---
**Author:** ![AmberV](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/amberv/32/13021_2.png) [@AmberV](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/AmberV)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/3 "2026-11-02T13:20:15Z")
They could have sent out a bamboo implement and avoided the bad look of spewing more plastic everywhere. I’ve always just used a narrow wooden paddle to stir the grounds, when using these things, so I guess I’m all right! ---
**Author:** ![FanLi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/fanli/32/39924_2.png) [@FanLi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/FanLi)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 11:17pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/4 "2026-11-02T23:17:08Z")
My Turkish _[Cezve](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Cezve&t=newext&atb=v472-1&ia=images&iax=images)_ came with a wooden spoon to protect the tin lining. I also use it in my French Press. ---
**Author:** ![MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/MJiJi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2026, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/5 "2026-11-03T00:39:58Z")
Well, it’s Tuesday morning here and I suppose that a little later I’ll be bugging some consumer affairs folks in some office to make sure they are doing their job and checking if this recall needs any public attention here in Japan, but the thought hit me sometime yesterday as to whether this same problem could be possible with all such coffee makers that used similar material for the container. So frequently in a given industry costs are kept down by sharing certain technology and methods for producing a common product. That 1974 and 5.9 million really is something. WELL, it actually hit me first because of something my wife said about the recall of an older piece of equipment. Last winter I was taking apart a ceramic heater to clean the fan blades and discovered factory source fastener mistakes that really surprised me. Really bad ones, but I have medical troubles and such and mobility is a big issue and decided I could make the unit safe for at least one more winter and fixed it. But as this winter is coming up I was musing with my wife whether maybe that heater is too old to be bothering the company and she was making the case that the age of the product didn’t matter. Then I saw that 1974 thing about that coffee maker and - - - well; once again, the “BOSS” was/is right. But that 5.9 million is also one heck of a number. Some reason, this also reminds me of that Pinto disaster. ---
**Author:** ![MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/MJiJi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2026, 1:26am UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/6 "2026-11-03T01:26:22Z")
My goodness, I really am out of touch with the brick-and-mortar world. Tried calling downtown and I find out it is a holiday here. Culture Day. _Parties in all laboratories in Japan and culture samples are allowed access to the Internet._ ---
**Author:** ![MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/MJiJi)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2026, 10:48am UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/7 "2026-11-05T10:48:02Z")
This business of confirming the safety issues and so forth, here, in Japan, has turned into one awful mess. Had to spend hours on the phone to get the proper folks to pay attention. Today is about six days from when I think the U.S. gov folks posted the details of the recall and here in Japan even the company that sells that brand was showing nothing about the recall on their landing page. And it seemed all the consumer safety folks I talked to had no clue what was going on. Wasn’t until I finally got the proper extension number to the safety folks at the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry that I finally got somebody who understood the significance of the situation. Absolutely amazing the hoops I had to jump through to get this job done. And we are now starting to see how lapses in safety awareness on the Net, by even the largest of commercial entities, is so lacking. Hackers are not the ones getting smarter at finding those little security holes all over the Net; it’s the AI doing the finding. Just read a few hours ago it was some blood banks in France that got hit by some bad people. Beer drinking folks here in Japan lost a certain company brand of beer for many months because of some security hole found by one of the new AI detection programs. Oh well . . . Sorry for carrying on. Just worrying, to be honest. _Need a super big alarm clock to get some folks to wake up_! EDIT: I ‘walked’ away from this thread and then it hit me that clocks, mechanical clocks, are AI. I don’t tell the clock what time it is; it tells me. In fact, this one over to my left is very loud with that hammer thingy that clangs on the two bell thingies. All I have to do is feed it some of Ben’s stuff; you know, Mr. Franklin’s electricity. ---
**Author:** ![November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/november_sierra/32/41086_2.png) [@November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/November_Sierra)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2026, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/8 "2026-11-05T14:44:22Z")
> [@MJiJi](#): > > clocks, mechanical clocks, are AI. I don’t tell the clock what time it is; it tells me. And it confidently lies most of the… time. So the results have to be double-checked and corrected frequently. The similarity is striking! On the other hand(s), you don’t have to pay extra after looking at it too often, and most mechanical clocks are unable to come up with an elaborate blackmailing scheme when you threaten to throw them away. ---
**Author:** ![SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/scn/32/37507_2.png) [@SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/SCN)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2026, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/9 "2026-11-05T14:58:40Z")
> [@November\_Sierra](#): > > On the other hand(s), you don’t have to pay extra after looking at it too often, and most mechanical clocks are unable to come up with an elaborate blackmailing scheme when you threaten to throw them away. True, but if you’re zooming by that clock at, say, .7 C, it’s going to be ticking mighty fast. Wait. What’s the topic again? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/november_sierra/32/41086_2.png) [@November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/November_Sierra)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/10 "2026-11-05T15:11:11Z")
> [@SCN](#): > > True, but if you’re zooming by that clock at, say, .7 C, it’s going to be ticking mighty fast. Good luck reading it. 😄 Otherwise, yeah, same with “A.I.”, at that speed you can watch it hallucinating really fast. \* \* Technically they both still tick at the same speed, but the observer doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/scn/32/37507_2.png) [@SCN](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/SCN)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/11 "2026-11-05T18:08:21Z")
> [@November\_Sierra](#): > > \* Technically they both still tick at the same speed, but the observer doesn’t. To totally derail this discussion topic… Fair, but relativity is mutual. From the clock’s frame my watch runs slow, and from mine the clock does. It would only look fast on the approach, and that’s Doppler, not time dilation. Your version needs a round trip, the twin paradox, and by then I’ll have forgotten the topic entirely. (I already have, actually.) ---
**Author:** ![MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/MJiJi)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2026, 7:44pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/12 "2026-11-05T19:44:11Z")
No worry at all about derailing this train by adding new cars to the back of the train. And it is a one-way track, only one set of carriages, no set speed, multiple drivers, so no problem. In fact, there’s been another problem that arose in my mind some days or so ago that does relate to coffee; the staff here has been quite clever at hiding the machine that serves up the latte. I’ve poked all around and have found neither the fridge with the milk, if we are speaking Italian; nor the machine that makes the latte, if we are speaking (writing) English. Okey-dokey, please keep furnishing the new Doppler carriage and don’t forget the Austrian furnishings for that car/carriage. EDIT: Slight error. Used to be one set of carriages, but extras have now been added. If none of you mind, neither do I. ---
**Author:** ![November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/november_sierra/32/41086_2.png) [@November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/November_Sierra)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2026, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/13 "2026-11-05T19:55:40Z")
> [@SCN](#): > > Fair, but relativity is mutual. From the clock’s frame my watch runs slow, and from mine the clock does. Still, assuming that both clocks are virtually identical, they keep ticking the same. What makes them _appear_ faster / slower is the constant speed of light. If you manage to compare both (if they meet one day at the same location), they’re completely off. Maybe we should use a calendar instead… Anyways, the difference isn’t the result of one clock ticking faster, but traveling farther. That wasn’t very clear. Let’s use stopwatches. I have a stopwatch here on Earth, you take one with you on a very fast spacecraft. We start them at the same time and agree to stop them at 4:56 min. Once you come back, and my great-great-great-great-great-grandchild shows you my stopwatch, both will display “4:56”. > [@SCN](#): > > It would only look fast on the approach, and that’s Doppler, not time dilation. Same perception issue. The clocks don’t change, just their location (relative to each other) and the velocity of that location change. ---
**Author:** ![MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/MJiJi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/14 "2026-11-06T03:57:23Z")
> [@November\_Sierra](#): > > The clocks don’t change Well, the one I was traveling with on the way back had better not be flown through the top secret experiment way out there and the best I can do, without divulging classified material, is give you a hint: > **[Degaussing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degaussing)** > > Degaussing, or deperming, is the process of decreasing or eliminating a remnant magnetic field. It is named after the gauss, a unit of magnetism, which in turn was named after Carl Friedrich Gauss. Due to magnetic hysteresis, it is generally not possible to reduce a magnetic field completely to zero, so degaussing typically induces a very small "known" field referred to as bias. Degaussing was originally applied to reduce ships' magnetic signatures during World War II. Degaussing is also used to... Well, there is unclassified documentation about what happens to clocks when the Navy was/is engaging in that operation. ---
**Author:** ![November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/november_sierra/32/41086_2.png) [@November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/November_Sierra)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:28pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/15 "2026-11-06T14:28:51Z")
Use a digital watch, problem solved. That also covers g-force related effects. ---
**Author:** ![MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee7513/32.png) [@MJiJi](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/MJiJi)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2026, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/16 "2026-11-08T14:57:35Z")
Gotta be honest, I never thought about the digital watch for this type of situation. I don’t think I have ever owned a digital watch. Last watch I owned/used (I still own it but not sure where it is) — it was an outstanding self-winding thing. Swinging the arm, or something, made it work. Fair bit expensive, as I recall, but darn good watch. Sort of brings to mind when I see images or clips of present day flight decks for both fixed wing and rotor; that stuff is amazing. Looks nothing like what we used to use. Come to think of it, they have made wrist watches that are like tiny computers, yes? Seems like I’ve read or heard about that. Can’t remember ever seeing anyone in past meetings and such that had one, but I guess I could be forgetting. Technology sure has gone into the fast lane, or so it seems. Trouble is, many humans seem to be sort of still in the slow lane - - - a fair bit ‘not-so-smart’ in way too many cases. Kind of like technology is in the passing lane and the humans are in some AI’s rear view mirror. Forever. Seems like there should have been some law of nature stuck into human brains that as tech stuff improved, the brain would be keeping up. But I’m just an old fart, so what would I know. ---
**Author:** ![November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/user_avatar/forum.literatureandlatte.com/november_sierra/32/41086_2.png) [@November\_Sierra](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/u/November_Sierra)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2026, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/writers-coffee-and-safety/154985/17 "2026-11-08T20:24:11Z")
> [@MJiJi](#): > > I don’t think I have ever owned a digital watch. Last watch I owned/used (I still own it but not sure where it is) — it was an outstanding self-winding thing. Swinging the arm, or something, made it work. Fair bit expensive, as I recall, but darn good watch. Wonderful gadgets. I’m not a huge fan of digital watches, but usually keep a Casio around (solar-powered, radio-controlled, no fitness bullshit, kind of stuck in the 1980s in a good way, and for the price of one good mechanical one, you get several of those).