1Password for Free

If you’re looking for a way to manage your passwords, one of the best apps for that is free, probably briefly. 1Password for iOS is normally $10.

dealmac.com/1-Password-for-iPhon … 50951.html

Not sure how long this offer will last and buying the iOS version might mean you’ll decide to get the OS X version. But still, free is free. You can give it a try at no cost. And the app details do say that, if you get this one, the iOS 8 upgrade will be free.

1Password data is encrypted, so it is also a good place to store other data, such as credit card numbers.

–Mike Perry

It appears that 1Password 5 is going with the “freemium” model.

For a $10 in-app purchase, you gain access to the “pro features”, which are detailed here (but not on their main application web pages, which is frustrating):
blog.agilebits.com/2014/09/17/1p … ium-price/

Edit: This page gets to the point faster than the blog:
guides.agilebits.com/1password- … atures-faq

This is nice to know (from the FAQ): “Anyone who purchased 1Password 4 for iOS gets 1Password 5 and the Pro Features for no charge. Simply upgrade to iOS 8 and update 1Password from the App Store, and the Pro Features will automatically be unlocked.”

1Password is one of the few apps (along with Scrivener) that I wholeheartedly and unreservedly recommend. All the reviews of it that I have read praise it, and the detailed data about security they publish was informative. Yet I delayed buying it for a long time because I had another password manager (a relic of my ancient Palm days) and so struggled to justify paying for similar features again.

I was wrong. When I eventually bought the Mac app on special, I almost immediately bought the iOS app and wished I’d bought them both earlier. It syncs seamlessly, interacts with Safari (and other browsers) beautifully on the Mac, is wonderfully secure while still easy to use. And, with iOS 8, it will now work with Safari and other browsers on iPhone and iPad.

Well worth the $0 they are now asking!

For those that may be worried about being “stung” by missing premium features: don’t be. I suspect that most people won’t miss them (especially if they’ve never used a password manager). If you are the sort of person who needs them, then $10 is still a great price.

I agree with Nom on Scrivener and 1Password, though I’d also add Nisus Writer Pro and a couple of others to my “unreserved recommendation list”. I’ve been using 1Password for several years now, and have been using version 4 since it came out, so I qualify for the free Pro version of 5.

What is not clear to me is that, if, like me, you bought 1Password from them rather than the Mac App Store, in order to be able to use iCloud Drive for sync’ing, you will have to replace it with the Mac App Store version, and either pay for the Pro features or downgrade your Mac App to the free version.

The question is perhaps academic, since I have been syncing through Dropbox, and can presumably continue to do so. The Pro features — particularly storing software licence details in 1Password — are something that I’ve been using more and more of late.

Mr X

I have the impression that the new iCloud Drive is open to all apps that can interact with the file system. This article seems to come to a similar conclusion…

9to5mac.com/2014/06/05/icloud-dr … t-storage/

On the other hand,
guides.agilebits.com/1password- … oudkit-faq
has the following:

My bolding!

I’ve also started a thread asking for advice whether to move to the 10.10 public Beta:
https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/is-it-worth-it/27973/1

Mr X

The issue with 1Password has always been that for each platform you need to pay seperately for full features; this is still overly complex (I use OSX, iOS, Windows and Android). Lastpass uses 1 account for all platforms. A HTML5 Extension platform lke Lastpass makes the UI less pretty than 1password, but it is more powerful and flexible (many Two-factor authentication methods that agile bits still haven’t got round to supporting, including a great analog printed grid, one-time passwords and more). Lastpass has better security auditing, or at least it did when I last trialled 1password.

What happens if you have Pro iOS but freemium Android? What if you want to access on Windows but don’t want to have to pay for OS X + Windows ($70)? Lastpass is $12 for full feature-set across every OS. They really need to switch over to a unified account model.

1Password does have multi-platform licensing bundles (though they’re limited by Apple’s app store model in that regard).

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t 2-factor authentication for web applications, and not for stand-alone programs?

Auditing: Do you mean that it tracks known/susspected security breaches and provides you with a list of your stored credentials which should be updated? 1P has (finally) provided that as of the latest versions on Mac & iOS. Not sure about the Windows version.

1-time passwords: I’m not sure I understand the utility of a password you don’t store for future use. What happens to the account you create on a site with a 1-time password? What if you need to log on again unexpectedly?

If you don’t want to pay for OS X + Windows then you … don’t? I understand that Lastpass is more frugal over the short-term, but over time, I’m not seeing a cost savings even if you buy it on every available platform. It’s probably a wash over time, as paid upgrades pop up (I have done one paid upgrade on one platform in about 4 years, I think…)

As for ‘accounts’, there aren’t any with Agilebits (unless you count the licenses you have with them). The user controls where his/her data is stored. Syncing requires a cloud solution, and that’s a feature I make heavy use of, but I decide if I want to sync, and with what company. If I don’t need to share my personal account information on my work computer, for instance, I can have a password vault that never leaves that machine’s hard drive (except to local backups).

As for what happens with various licensing… you don’t lose access to any account information, but you may not be able to view categories, and maybe extensions may no be available? You only have a single password vault without upgrading the iOS version, so you can’t segregate your passwords (if that’s a thing you want to do).

It pretty much comes down to what you prefer, and I can see quite a lot of value in Lastpass. In my opinion, there’s not a lot of financial reason to chose one (license and use for years) vs another (pay a moderate yearly fee), though up-front cost vs recurring payments can certainly be a compelling short-term consideration. Nothing else you’ve brought up concerns me in the least, and much like my 10+ years investment in Apple platforms, the cost of switching (in productivity and frustration) vs. the savings (in money and choice) doesn’t lead me to change from what I like.

I can’t see why the benefits of multifactor auth can’t apply equally to a traditional desktop app, especially one like 1P with a “master” password. Lastpass supports a variety of two/multi-factor methods:

lastpass.com/multifactor-authentication/
helpdesk.lastpass.com/security- … n-options/

As I don’t much care for the more devicecentric of those (if I’m travelling I want flexibility and not depend on mobile devices), I stick to the analog grid (printed and saved in my wallet) if I’m travelling:

“A unique, generated spreadsheet of random values that resemble a Battleship grid, each section containing a different letter or number. Once enabled, you’ll be prompted to find and enter four values from the spreadsheet.”

The 1-time password is for Lastpass login itself – if you are travelling, you generate a 1TP, and even if you use it on a public machine with a keylogger, that password will never work again, they self-destruct mission-impossible style. This along with grid authentication should reduce your attack vector in “hostile” territory :slight_smile:

I suppose my feeling was Agile Bits is very active (they’re amazing developers BTW, I’m constantly impressed with their responses to customers even on sites like Macupdate), and they seem to release updates regularly, and I may be mistaken but the upgrade fees as well as the upfront fee if you want to be able to support all platforms appeared steep when I was trying to decide. 1Password is designed firstmost as a local vault you can extend outwards, Lastpass as a cloud service you can use locally. I find the flexibility of a unified “deep” cloud with well thought out security better for my needs: I travel a lot and use multiple platforms and not always a “safe” device which 1password just isn’t designed to deal with. If you mainly use one computer, plus one safe device, then 1password is an elegant solution from excellent developers.

I wouldn’t dismiss Locko either from, much more like 1password but cheaper, for the developers of the essential/wonderful Forklift file manager. I bought it just to support the developers.