It’s been another huge week. Progress has certainly been slower than expected as we encountered some time consuming issues trying to implement Doc, Docx import and export support which we’ve had to back out of for this release - which is a real bummer as we had hoped to surprise folks. Progress on the RTF fixes though is looking very good - it’s certainly looking quite solid now.
At this stage I will be looking to release beta 1.4 over the weekend where I will provide a detailed report.
Thanks for the hard work, Lee.
Is it naughty of me to remind you, though, that anyone using scrivener is likely writing documents they shouldn’t be risking to Word, which is unstable after about 50 pages, anyway? Of course, I kinda think anyone still running XP shouldn’t be pandered too, either (of course even MS has caved on that, but, really there’s no excuse to still be running it )
As a Mac user who runs Windows XP in BootCamp, I resemble that remark! I see no reason to move up to the newest buggy, bloated, resource-hogging version of Windows, since I am running the most stable platform Redmond has issued in the last 20 years.
As a Netbook user I completely disagree on the XP support. Have you tried a win7 netbook? It’s crap. My little XP Netbook runs better than any other windows computer I have (I own 4 total). So excuse me for being “pandered to”, but I will continue running XP for years I’m sure. :mrgreen:
Also, .doc support for import and export is practically necessary for a program of this caliber running on windows. Despite your personal opinion on the program itself.
Support for .doc/.docx would be cool - but you already support import/export of RTF. So that’s really good enough. I can wait for Scrivner for Windows 2.0 where you will have this (hint, hint).
Well, .doc support is definitely necessary at some point. Not for for any technical reasons, but because there are many people out there that will not know what RTF is, and not know that Word can use and save to RTF. It will be a constant support issue if there is no .doc/x import ability. Same reason we have to put .doc/x exporters in the Mac version. It would be just fine if all we had was RTF—and in fact the .doc exporter is just RTF with the extension changed—but if it didn’t have .doc/x in the list, there would be hell to pay in every single review and etc. What good is a writing program if it can’t communicate with Word, etc.
P.S. Totally agree on w7 being superfluous and overkill on a netbook. You need every inch on those things, and w7 is just wasteful for the sake of being wasteful. That’s fine on a full powered computer; it’s nice to use what you can to do nice things. My ancient Asus Eee PC (one of the little 9" ones that practically invented the genre) runs faster with XP than my brand new Asus Eee Seashell edition which is about 3 times as powerful, has 4x RAM and has 20x more storage, but it runs like a pig with w7 on it. The only reason I keep it that way is because I need it for a baseline support system.
As someone who uses what she considers to be the best tool for the job based on her own experience and research, not just hype, I will happily say that I hadn’t thought about netbooks attempting to run something like Scrivener - though I’m surprised that even XP would make much difference, netbooks aren’t made for full processor computing and I have an Android for the things netbooks are supposed to be for. Highly recommend it - though no ScrivDroid, of course.
Anyone who hasn’t tried Win 7 yet should try it themselves - it’s not bloated and it’s not resource hogging - it’s actually fantastic because they learned from their (many) mistakes with Vista. Win7 is also the best version of a tablet OS since MS screwed we tablet owners over with their XP for Tablet “upgrade” in 2005 - it really is amazing and I’m enjoying Scrivener on my tablet very much.
My comment was about w7 on a Netbook. Although, you don’t seem to have ever TOUCHED a netbook for someone who claims not to go based on “hype”. My Netbook that it isn’t “made for full processor computing” runs Scrivener fabulously.It also runs some heavy processor draining programs such as Sims 2 and iTunes. I would also never dream of replacing it with an Android device of any kind.
But thanks for talking down, it’s super appreciated. You are of course the only person who’s opinion matters. I just forgot.
If you’d read what I wrote, I was actually saying that you were right and I was wrong on the XP point because I hadn’t considered netbooks. I have ‘touched’ a netbook, many friends have them but they aren’t made for full computing - though I’m very happy for you that you get what you need out of it.
My general point was that I felt that people were asking a little much of Lee, you don’t by a Ford Falcon and then insist on being able to race in the Grand Prix.
I was not talking down to anyone, I was simply stating that I was speaking from experience of all the systems discussed, and felt that many of the points made were not those that would be made by people who had real experience with them. I think I responded quite well considering the way my comment (which I admitted was ‘naughty’ from the outset) was unnecessarily attacked.
I think that’s the thing people are reacting to. I can guarantee in my case that what I do with my computers (csound, LISP and other computer music programming) I absolutely can’t do on windows. I couldn’t do it on any out-of-the-box distro, either, since I’ve got my kernel tweaked for multimedia rendering and the like. It’s silly to insist that we’re all reacting against hype by not running a specific microsoft product.
And, yes, I have tried windows 7. I supported it on about 20-30 computers in my last job, along with about 200 OSX computers.
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Of course, I kinda think anyone still running XP shouldn’t be pandered too, either (of course even MS has caved on that, but, really there’s no excuse to still be running it 
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