A suggestion for the LitLat team

From what i have read on this forum the new app will arrive at some point next year. Over a year after it was announced. Even more. If it is a January reveal alone then that is 14-15 months.

I think they should make a blog post of the features that are fully agreed upon. Since it is in beta and things can change. They should make a halfway there showcase of the features that will be 100% available which will be great promo for those who might want to purchase it or get a subscription for it.

The basic features.

Themes if any or if the customization is the same as Scrivener which i prefer( i LOVE the theme here in the forum. Light brown header and dark brown everything else. I have it as my theme for scrivener. )

What features are fully integrated. Such as typewriter mode.

How it is stored. Is it like scrivener in individual projects for each instance or like Ulysses/Bear inside the app itself?

What does the community think? A taste of what is coming?

And that’s it. Nothing to share. End of story.

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Hey.Hey.Hey. How about you stop using logic and facts in my obvious attempt at using peer pressure to learn more about this app i want to use? Ok ? Ok ? Be cool man


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I understand your desire, but the people who build it don’t want to talk about it and the people who test it aren’t allowed to talk about it. No amount of pressure is going to change that stance. Sorry.

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The announcement said that the new app would be released later this year, which would be around four months, and I think that’s bearable. As soon as the embargo is lifted and the app is available, I will try it out and test it. At the moment, Scrivener is and remains my first choice. As I read in the announcement that there are probably no collections, which I use and appreciate for my projects, I also have to test the extent to which I can use the new app. A lot also depends on whether you can import existing Scrivener projects into the new app and what the output options look like, i.e. which functions will replace the compiler. These are all questions that we can find out and answer for ourselves after the release. iCoud sync is a big plus in favour of the new app - but these are all things that can be gleaned from the announcement. Let’s see.

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‘I know nothing!’

The only beta user reply allowed! :grin: :grin: :grin:

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Yeah, we aren’t trying to be coy, it’s just that we know from experience that if we talk about things too early, it just causes frustration. The problem is that delays inevitably occur, so if we reveal a bunch of stuff and get everyone excited, and then say, “whoops, sorry, it’s going to be three months late”, people understandably get annoyed at having their hopes got up and the excitement abates.

So we’ll start talking about it once we know it’s nearly ready for release, which, as you note, will most likely be next year now.

I will say, though, that it is project-based like Scrivener, not everything in one place like Ulysses/Bear. And you can import from a Scrivener project content that is supported (remember that Scrivener has a lot more features), and export to Scrivener if you want to take advantage of Scrivener’s extra features.

Beyond that, I remain schtum!

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And is the intention still to release the Mac and Windows versions simultaneously, or is it more likely to be Mac and iOS first?

Or is this a question to which ”schtum” is the only possible answer?

This is great news and for me personally, one of the most important ones. I have written huge, like huge projects and series and I was afraid, the transfer/import/export from Scrivener would be critical. Now I feel releaved and will wait until release, with excitement. Thank you for that note.
Thomas

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Ha, well, let’s just say that our commitment to releasing it on Windows, Mac and iOS simultaneously is the reason for the delay until next year. :wink:

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As a former windows user i appreciate the equality and support for all systems.

As a current mac user thirsting for the app
 pst
 forget all them filthy little windows users. Low life scum. Give it to us mac royals and whenever it is available we can throw some scraps. /s

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I don’t appreciate being categorised as a “low life scum”.
Take your insults elsewhere.
Moderators
 step in here, if you please.
This post has been flagged as inappropriate for almost a day.

the /s is meant to denote sarcasm
of course i don’t really believe that
 it is used online
 whenever /s is used is sarcastic
 i apologize if you thought i actually meant that


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I think it is fairly clear that Eugbtnr11 doesn’t really think that Windows users are “low life scum” and was only joking, especially since he is a former Windows user himself!

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In the offending post I read /s as a malformed attempt to write an IPA example except it is missing the closing /. Personally I prefer more obvious marks to indicate sarcasm but enclosing such text in <sarcasm>
</sarcasm> which makes my linguistic intention clear.

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Interesting. I learnt from your discussion. Thankyou. I then sought advice from AI.
ChatGPT:
I said: what does /s denote in online chat
ChatGPT said:
In online chat, “/s” is used to indicate sarcasm. It’s often placed at the end of a sentence or statement to signal that the preceding text should be interpreted sarcastically. Since sarcasm can sometimes be difficult to convey through text (without tone or facial expressions), people use this shorthand to avoid misunderstandings.
For example:

  • “Wow, you’re such a great singer. /s” (The speaker is implying the opposite and being sarcastic.)
    This convention helps ensure the intent behind the message is clear.

Using a dubious shorthand to avoid misunderstandings. What could possibly go wrong. /smh

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Thanks to AI I now understand /smh as well. I have to say “back in my day” (I recently became an “Early Career” researcher in my 60s) life was simpler (maybe not). Having said that, my ham radio morse code experiences included many abbreviations that were equally difficult to grasp-even if some of them would no longer be acceptable.

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Ah, and a simple Google search told me what that means, without having to rely on dubious AI (wrong more often than right?). /s

Get the impression I’m not an AI fan :)?

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In the long distant past (beginning of last year), our university put the brakes on AI use for students and most academic purposes. As time rolled on, AI use in the classroom has become an essential teaching point and learning tool. Even if I wanted to, learning to use AI effectively and safely is an important aspect of staff professional development. Whether I am a fan or not-in my context AI is now a “have to” and helping students to understand and acknowledge their use (and purpose) is central to effective teaching practice.
For me, being able to fence safe areas away from AI for creative purposes is of great import.
That said, I don’t to see my response as detracting from the important discussion about the relative merits of Windows and Mac users./s
(from a Windows User Mac wannabe).

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