Clik in the binder doesnt open the right file

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hi, im a newbee and im sorry if this question boring you.

when i’m selecting a folder in the binder, click select the name as if i want change it, or open the file in the editor, while another remain open in the corkboard.
i need to select and open, no more.
i’ve to try to change in the pref but nothing happen.
:thinking: any suggestion?
thank you

T

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Hello @TomGom ,

I think you need to be more clear as to what you are trying to do. And it seems English may not be your first language, which is fine, but you must help us.

I would suggest you give a procedure, all steps. Say what you expect, then, and what actually happensa. For example,

  • open Manuscript, in binder.
  • click on a folder in the Manuscript, the matrix icon to show cards
  • click on a card
  • see the file for the card open to edit, and don’t see cards any more

This is normal operation, if it answers your question. It would be the same from a folder within a folder, and then a document.

When you reach a document by any means, and click to open it, in Scrivner iOS you can’t see the cards anymore – this is expected. Maybe this answers your question?

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thank you for the answer

anyway I have many problems managing the work in the right way, especially regarding the commands and their execution through the editor panel, the corkboard and the binder:
1-if I select the title of a folder with a click, it highlights the name of the folder and does not show me the contents, but changes the name.
2-once the content appears in the editor another time in the corkboard, sometimes a folder is selected in the binder but in the editor there is another document. a little chaotic.

please let me know if there is a system to simplify the commands: select a folder in the binder, see it in the corkboard (along with the other docs inside the folder) and edit it in the editor. or in the reverse mode: highlight in the corkboard and see the file in binder and work on the same file in the editor. This is enough for me.

thank you

T

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Well, it’s still hard to understand what’s bothering you, but maybe I am getting a picture.

The basis of it might be that any item in the binder can be either – or both - a document and a container.

This is a fundamental idea in Scrivener, to help you be able to have ‘chapter-level’ text, as books sometimes do – an aphorism, a quote, etc. on the ‘chapter’ page.

  • so if you’ve clicked on any document, you’ll get either its own edit page, or a corkboard of its contents. You select between these with the first of 5 icons to the right of the title, at the top of the editor. It will change from a lined sheet of paper to a matrix of cars imitation depending on its state, and you’ll see that ‘chapter document’ for the page icon, which will be empty unless you decided to write something in it.
  • Which normally you wouldn’t , would prefer the card view…which you get when the lined page shows as the icon – because the icon is a switch, and the editable content is the other state. Click several times and observe to understand this. I think this is one center of your situation.

Now, there are two other things to mention.

  • the italic i icon next in line to the right of the page/matrix icon gives you the Inspector, staking over the left of the screen, and in the lower part there you can specify whether you want this document to show as a folder - as you normally would. This is what you’ll get when you create a new folder in the binder. If you can always change it, say for the chapter page of a chapter which contains sections – just documents beneath it.

  • now, how containing documents and their contents have also a choice as to how you see them in the binder before you open them. You control this with one of those Apple features Scrivener’s taken such care to use, to get the maximum of abilities – but this does make finding them sometimes obscure, until you get used to it.

In this case, we use the ‘slide-left’ ability of binder items - which probably you haven’t yet noticed. Put your finger on a container that has contents, and holding it steadily with your finer, slide it to the left. You’ll see some colored buttons --slide far enough, and when you lift your finger, they’ll stay in view so you can tap one.

The button we’re interested in here has the label of Collapse or Expand, and again it’s a toggle, so it indicates the other state from the one you’re in. In the Collapsed state, and when you’re set to see cards rather than a container’s own possible content, Cards is what you’ll see when you tap that binder item.

I’m going to stop here, because that’s the other end of what’s seemed confusing. On the line of buttons you’ll also have had a Move and a More choice. Move is pretty straightforward, giving a lot of choices where could move the item, including creating a new Folder for it. The other button is called More, and this unlocks a lot of interesting things Scrivener iOS can do, bringing it much close to abilities of Scrivener on a laptop, if you want to use them.

To understand more, I would certainly work your way through the Tutorial, which always shows at the bottom left column when you open Scrivener – it’s a kind of permanent document, and very useful to learn a bit from at a time, so you gradually gain as much orientation as you want.

Then these things become kind of automatic, once you know them – and choose how deeply or not you need or want to go for your own writing purposes…

Good fortune, then, Tom,
Clive

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thank you, you are very kind.
This sw help me a lot to define my project for a comic novel. I’m a designer, not a writer…i express my thought better with the drawings than the words.

best,
Tom

please visit my portfolio.
tommasogomez.artstation.com

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Well, you are very talented, Tommaso , or maybe ‘capable’, is the way we prefer to say that now-. I liked particularly the ways you could slide from a more comic to a more imaginative-realist expression, and surely you are fluent in this :slight_smile:

I don’t play games, except one that I’ve come back to recently to find a last chapter, which is indeed very fine. This is the best of Benoit Sokol’s Syberia, and it very fine in both story telling and atmosphere, carried by both words and images. In fact it brings me strongly back to my European life, and this is treasured.

On Steam is a page for it, with two decent videos and a set of scenes, which I wonder if you would enjoy to have a look at. In fact, some of your art definitely reminded of what is in this work.

I apologize that there were some typos in the explanation, might have made some of it hard to read. I’ve fixed them I think , and next time will remember to run the spell checker.

I hope you end up getting along with Scrivener – in the end it’s kind of a visualizable map of abilities, in that some as we discuss have branching dimensions.

There’s another app which might possibly appeal to you, in terms of working out ideas. That’s here: https://www.craft.do/ . You can try it for free, and then it’s one app I’ve been willing to pay the yearly cost for, which is a very personal choice. It has powers, including a way to easily present an illustrated, prettied-up document on the web – and it has a few of it’s own peculiarities to learn. It seems apps in this area of use often have those. From wanting to include so many abilities, maybe

Patience and coming back for further tries gets us through any o f them, I think…!

Best again,
Clive

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@TomGom , I had another thouight, also from looking over your portfolio site.

I noticed there that you are indeed more inclined to images than words, and I thought about games of the kind you may illustrate, or draw characters for.

In such games, there are often puzzles to solve, and when we learn the motion of them, then we don’t forget, as well as gathering the reward that was promised.

So I thought these patterns in Scrivener iOS are like that. We thoughtfully try buttons and moves, which are like pathways in a game.

Then soon enough we understand one of them, and don’t forget that. It’s like an image in mind, this path.

We go on to discover others. After a while, we see the possible image-paths. It’s like learning locations and how to get to them in a city. The mind is very good at that.

Maybe such a way of thinking will help you enjoy Scrivener. I had the feeling you were very polite, but a first read of my instructions still didn’t help enough. So maybe this pattern will. You can use portions of the instructions to try paths, and see how that works.

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Hi Clive, thank you for your suggestion. I appreciate a lot.
As many sw, also Scrivener have a lot of functions and trying trying the user build a mental map.
Unfortunately :confused: I’m not patient enough to wait to memorize the various options…
The user pref settings is a bulk of informations, really difficult to understand also in italian language.
I would like that when I click on the folder in the binder, the corkboard (which is to the right of it) opens with the contents and if I click on the respective doc in the corkboard the editor (which is to the right of the corkboard) of that document opens. I can’t explain better, I’m definitely doing something wrong. I’ll have to train.
Thank you for your help
We stay in touch for other chats about scrivener and games.

Best

T

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