Is there a way to make a bibliography from endnotes easily to work from?
Thanks!
I don’t use citation-management tools myself, but we have a number of users on the forum who do.
You might search for threads about using citation-management tools and review some posts like this thread or this other thread for suggestions.
Working with any bibliography management software via Scrivener is a right royal pain in the *******. Maybe recent improvements in LaTeX processing (and therefore BibTeX handling) will make it simpler although I wish that all that was not predicated on using Markdown syntax rather than the visual styles and font attributes native to Scrivener.
Working with any bibliography management software via Scrivener is a right royal pain in the *******.
Like many others here, I can’t say I agree; Cmd-Y, find reference in Bookends, Cmd-Y and the citation code is pasted into Scrivener at the cursor location(1), is hardly arduous. Then running “Scan” to expand the citation and create the bibliography in your word processor is a probably a matter of a single mouse-click(2).
I imagine setting it all up in BibTex(3) and setting up your Scrivener to LaTex workflow probably takes more time and experimentation.
Mark
(1) I have to say, the last stage has stopped working on my 2015 iMac (subject for another thread in due course!) though it’s fine on my M1 MBA.
(2) This may depend on word processor. I use Nisus Writer Pro where it’s like falling off a log; Mellel has even stronger links with Bookends; I can’t say for Word or LibreOffice.
(3) Bookends can create your BibTex for you in parallel with the Bookends database, so you can use Bookends to do all your reference management but have the BibTex ready for LaTex; @nontroppo knows more!
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But Scrivener is my word processor. I don’t use anything else.
Ah, OK.
My workflow is essentially using Scrivener and NWP in a sort of Scrivener→LaTeX kind of workflow. I use styles inn Scrivener as a kind of mark-up language compiling to RTF and then use a macro in NWP to do the page layout.; i.e. the macro serves the function of Pandoc/whatever in converting the Scrivener output into the desired formatting. So for me, Bookends is a matter of a few clicks in Scrivener and NWP.
Mark
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It most certainly can do that. Just create a style and apply it to the cite key. Then, in the style configuration, set it to the apply the proper mark-up and you’re set.
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Not sure I follow what you. Plus I was referring to the implicit need to Markdown everything when going to LaTeX; unless something major has changed since I last tried to use the LaTeX setup.
Hi Zachary,
Although I don’t currently need bibliography features as I’m writing novels and screenplays, have though considered using some of the cross-reference features that the lovely AmberV of Literature and Latte has extolled to a few people wanting help with glossaries?
Although @AmberV has touched upon glossaries a few times in various threads, this is the post of hers I found the most helpful for my situation:
What I used this workflow for was to create a running reference guide for myself in a new top-level folder I call my Codex (it’s a fantasy novel). The first time I invent a new word in my conlang or if I use a term that means something different for my magic, I create a link as AmberV outlines and then link it to a document within my Codex folder.
In a previous professional incarnation, I worked as a legal assistant and used Word’s features for a laborious thing called Tables of Authorities—when attorneys create a sort of table of contents, but for all the legal citations. In Word, I’d use the full citation the first time in a document and then link back to it when using the short citation.
You can do something similar using AmberV’s glossary steps:
- Write your glorious text and throw in a short or long citation to taste, e.g.: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone (Rowling, 1997, pp 13-24)
- Create links in your short citation from your footnotes/endnotes or within the body of your text such. The first time you cite to a source, when the document window pops up, give all the gory details that you want in your final bibliography.
- For all subsequent uses of the source, use the double bracket method to link back, e.g.: [[Sorcerer’s Stone]] — make sure you have the feature enabled to convert these to links automagically
- When your authoring is done, go to the folder you created for all of your cited sources. Use the Edit | Sort feature on your Bibliography folder.
Make sure all of your citations use a citation format that will work for quick sorting. Meaning, if you want to sort alphabetically by author, put the author surname first; if you want to sort chronically, make sure the year is first, etc.
When you’re ready to create your bibliography or to share it, use Compile features to make it look perfect. If you’re exporting to Word, you’ll have a lot of WYSWIG options, but if Scrivener is your main/only word processor, you’ll need to learn a bit about Compile formatting, which I’m a novice at myself.
Hope this helps.
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Actually, you don’t have to use markdown in the body of the text. You’re totally free to use “visual styles and font attributes native to Scrivener” and get the appropriate markup in the compiled text.
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