Footnote number font size is different from footnote font size; compile to Microsoft Word

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This seems to be related to the “no style” settings for text in the compile settings. Someone posted about this for macOS (Footnote number font) it was a few years ago, not sure if that was resolved.

My footnote font in the is larger in the editor for readability, than what I want in the compiled output. In compile I used the “override font” setting in the compile settings for footnotes to make the font smaller.

Here’s my notes on what settings I have and what was output to Word:
Scrivener 3.1.5.1 compile to Microsoft 365 Word.
Editor Font for footnotes is Times New Roman 11 pt. Set in options/editing.

Compile setting for footnotes: override with Times New Roman 10 pt. (No place to enter line spacing for footnotes in the compile settings as far as I know.)

Compile setting for text is Times New Roman 11 pt, 1.0x 0.0/8.0 (line spacing single, before paragraph spacing 0, after paragraph spacing 8 pt)

Compile output footnote text: Microsoft Word; Times New Roman 10pt.
Compile output footnote number preceding text: Times New Roman 11pt.

Checked paragraph settings in Word: selected just the footnote number and the paragraph settings are line spacing is single, with 0 pt before and 8pt after, matching the text configuration

The line spacing and the number font for the footnote is coming from my “no style” for text in the compile settings (section layout for just text) rather than the override font for footnotes setting.

Has anyone else had this issue? I’ve just stopped using that override the font for footnotes and then change them in Word manually to what I want.

Thanks
Stacey

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Thanks for the post. It does look like the font and size being applied to the footnote number in the main text is also being applied to the number where it appears at the foot of the page preceding the footnote text. Since the footnote number in the main text just uses the same font and size as its surrounding text, it’ll be whatever that main text is compiled as—TNR 11 in your example because that’s the formatting per the compile settings. (In other words, this isn’t related to the font you’re using for the footnotes in the editor; that could be Papyrus 14 and you’d still get TNR 11 for the numbers in the compiled document.)

Currently, the font/size set for the footnotes is only being applied to the note text itself, whether coming from the footnote font override in compile or (with no compile overrides) from Scrivener’s editor. I’ll see what we can do about getting that fixed so the number preceding the footnote text also uses the override font and size. In the meanwhile, tidying it in Word as you’re doing is the best option, and with Word’s more extensive footnote formatting tools, that may be something you want to do anyway if you need more control over the line or paragraph spacing for the notes.

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Thank you for your reply. That makes sense. And thank you for looking into having the override set the font size for the number in addition to the font/font size for the text.

Now here is something else that is weird. I imported a Word document, the font was Calibri. It had Calibri footnotes. Anytime I add a new footnote, since doing that import, the footnote number before the footnote text in Word, is Calibri, even though my editor is Times New Roman. That can be fixed in Word.

Appreciate your response, I can fix these things in Word and then next time I import something, I’ll change fonts, etc. before I import it.

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Is there now a way to solve this problem ?

I have the same problem but I would need to manually format 500+ footnotes in Word. Or is there a way to select all exported footnotes in word and change the format.

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Without seeing the Word document, is there a Word style attached to the footnotes. If yes, then just change the style’s format in Word.

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That´s not possible. The footnotes have the default format of the whole text though they differ in the font.

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I wish they would get a fix for this so the footnote number font in the text matched the font number font in the actual footnotes when compiling to Word. It is tiresome to make all the changes in Word (the things Scrivener can’t do because it is not a word processor), then find out, you need to add one more footnote. Word generated footnotes won’t match the Scrivener footnotes. Trying to figure out how fix that.

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I haven’t double-checked whether this works, but if you can get away with having only one font (TNR) in total for the entire document, then the global font override, found at the top of the middle preview column in the compile overview section should work. If it doesn’t, it’s buggy, because that should change absolutely all fonts to the target family, even if you use styles or as-is settings.

That will leave font sizes alone however, so if that is the primary problem, I’m afraid it won’t help.

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Thank you Amber, but I need the footnote textual font smaller.

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I have the exact same issue and would like to see an option to be able to set the footnote number in the footer to the same as the text displayed with it. I do not want to change what’s inline in the document, only the footnote listing itself.

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Two set­tings de­ter­mine the font of the Foot­notes. But cur­rently there’s no op­tion to in­flu­ence the font size of the num­bers when over­rid­ing the set­ting in the Edit­ing Op­tions.

Don’t over­ride the font set­tings in the Com­pile For­mat De­signer’s Foot­notes & Com­ments set­tings. Make sure you de­ter­mine the def­i­nite font and font-size in the Edit­ing Op­tions and not in the Com­pile For­mat De­signer

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