Help with putting a website in Research Folder

I am in need of help. I have watched the tutorial as well as other people’s post on this matter but still I run into the same problem.
I am trying to put a website page in the Research folder. It looked easy enough. I have tried to drag and drop, the Add a webpage method but it is still not working and says the exact same thing.

Here is what I am getting on my screen:
I also leave as default: Import as: PDF Document Via webkit. ( but I have tried other import ways and still no luck)
I click on Research Folder and immediately get a shaded blue text saying: Not Enough Text Items
Then I got to: Add and then Webpage and I copy URL into this area. Before I hit ok, it says on this screen as a NOTE: Only Plain Text can be imported into the Draft Folder.
Then I wait and another screen appears:
HEADING: IMPORT FILES
Please note that text files that are imported will be converted to RTF for editing. This can cause certain attachment data, such as images and foot notes, to be lost for some text file types. ALSO NOTE: that the letters to my father folder does not support media files- media files should be imported in the Research Folder.

That is what I get each time I am trying to add a webpage and it isn’t working.

Can someone help me iron this out?
Thank you for I am using Scrivener for NANO and it is a pain to not have the website that I need to reference and check data on.

Thanks again,
Andrea

The message about importing text files to the Draft comes up whenever you import anywhere in the binder, unless you have checked the option for it not to appear again. It’s just a sort of heads-up message; it doesn’t affect the import itself. After you click OK, do you get another error related to importing the URL?

It’s possible the webpage just has too many injected scripts or such and is choking the converters. You could try saving to PDF from your browser, then importing that, or reference the webpage in Scrivener using the Document or Project References in the inspector. That wouldn’t create an archived copy of the page but just a link to the original, so you’d need an internet connection to view it and it would be subject to changing if the original updates, but you’d be able to right-click the link in the inspector and choose to view it in Scrivener’s editor, like a browser window, for side-by-side reference as you work.

Just a quick note on this message; you get this whenever you’re trying to show the contents of a folder and all of those contents are not editable Scrivener documents. They can be image files, PDFs, or webpage imports, but they cannot be viewed that way; you have to click directly on the item in the binder that represents your imported web page to view it in Scrivener.

Thank you MM and Robert. Still having trouble and here is the answers to your replies.

To MM: I thought maybe this was the case after reading your message. So I tried some other Webpage and it still doesn’t work. It was a wikipedia one.

To Robert: I am trying to put a webpage in Scrivener’s Research folder just as the tutorial did. I am unable to do so. It doesn’t appear as webpage just a blank screen and not a webpage. I have done exactly what the tutorial did.

I really would like to know what I am doing wrong. Is there someone that can help on phone in Scrivener? Does anyone have any contacts or advice here?
Thanks for the help. :slight_smile:

As a test, try importing the L&L homepage: literatureandlatte.com/ That should be working to import as PDF, unless you’re getting some kind of internet timeout from a slow network connection. If that works, the problem may just be that the particular pages you’re importing either have code that the converters can’t handle or are so large that they’re overtaxing the connection time or computer resources. Do you have a lot of other programs running when you try the import?

On that note, if you have any sort of security program that limits internet access, try disabling that. You could just be accidentally blocking Scrivener’s ability to access the webpage for download.

Are you getting any error messages particular to the download/conversion process?

Hi MM,

It takes a long time to download the site. But I think that you are right that it might be a large file. Based on this I did what you asked. I put the Literature and Lite site in the Research folder. It managed to take that one. But it wouldn’t say take a Wikipedia? Seems like it should… I saw the tutorial and the video showed a person doing it.
Is this due to the fact that I have a Windows version and I am using it on Vista? I will be getting new computer for Christmas but in the meantime I am trying to make this one work through Nano.
Please advise. I would like to put other things in this Folder.
Thank you.

The Windows and Mac versions do use different tools for converting and importing websites, so there will be some differences based on the platform. Even on a Windows system, factors like the network connection speed, available memory, etc. will affect this. Running Vista doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll have problems, but running Vista on a computer that’s been slowing down a lot lately probably would see issues.

Windows can import Wikipedia pages, but it’s still going to be down to the particular page, if there are elements that the converter isn’t able to process. It’s really down to the coding for the specific page, what sort of elements are on the page and how they’re embedded. Generally if you get an error importing the page, the solution is to try one of the other import converters, or if it’s a connection time-out, try again a little later; if none of that works, you’ll need to consider another method for bringing the webpage into Scrivener.

One option might be to print to PDF straight from the browser. Chrome offers this; I’m not sure if other browsers do. You may be able to install an add-on for that, or there are tools like the free CutePDF which give you the ability to print to PDF from any program. If that conversion to PDF works, you can then drag the PDF into Scrivener’s binder to import it.

You can also just try copying and pasting the webpage content, which will give you more control over what you’re including. You may end up running into an error with this, too, if there are elements on the page Scrivener isn’t able to copy (injected images usually), but by refining your selection you may get this working; for instance, try copying just the text. Pasting using Edit > Paste and Match Style may also work, as this pastes just plain-text. You can try saving the images from the page separately by right-clicking them, then inserting them into the Scrivener document by dragging them from your hard drive to the editor.

If having an archived copy of the page doesn’t matter, and the point is just to view it in Scrivener’s split editor rather than a separate browser window, the reference feature I mentioned earlier may work best for you. These are just links to the webpage, rather than a downloaded copy saved into the project. Select View > Inspect > References to switch to that pane in the inspector, and click in the “Document References” header to switch between the document references and the project references. Document references are specific to a single binder document, i.e. you have to select that document in order to see its references. Project references can be viewed no matter what documents are loaded in the editor.

Just drag the webpage URL from the browser address bar into the reference list to create a link, or use the “+” button to insert it. Then right-click the link and choose “Open in Editor” or “Open in Other Editor” to view the page directly in Scrivener. Double-clicking the icon will open the page in your default browser.

I’ve used Scrivener to import many Wikipedia pages.

Can you try opening up a new blank project and seeing if you can do the import from there?

Just an aside question:
I have seen screenshots of Scrivener for windows where importing a webpage could import “Dynamic webpages”, namely pages that you can use (for instance on www.google.com you can perform searches etc.). I do not have windows etc, so I cannot confirm that. In mac this option is not available: when you import pages they are static and if you click on a link on the page Safari opens the page.
It would be nice to implement inside Scrivener even a rudimentary web browser (like for instance in Bookends). But maybe this is not feasible.
Thank you!

There was a “dynamic” option once upon a time, but it had some technical problems and was removed. It didn’t quite function as a browser in the sense you probably want anyway. The idea has come up before, but it’s never been feasible to build a mini-browser into Scrivener. If we’re able to work this in nicely in the future, we’ll revisit it.

You can view a single dynamic page in Scrivener’s editor on Mac now by adding the link to the document or project references, then dragging it from there to the editor header. (There appears to be a bug whereby the “Open in Editor” context menu options are greyed out for webpage references in 2.7, but dragging the link directly onto the editor header bar will do the same.)

Thank you for your answer.
I tried it but it really does the same results: namely it opens Safari (my web browser), so it is not dynamic.
What I am looking for is the possibility to have web pages opened inside Scrivener. For instance: if I am looking for informations about Kennedy on wikipedia I want to be able to open within Scrivener the wikipedia page, perform the search, copy the information I need and past on any card, file etc: all this inside Scrivener.
I am afraid that this is not possible.
Thanks.

Right, that isn’t possible (and wasn’t possible with the earlier “dynamic” webpage option in Windows, either). You can view a “live” webpage in the browser by dragging the link from the references to the editor header–I tested that in 2.7 and it worked fine, despite the bug with the context menu–but you can’t interact with it there; clicking a link or running a search is still going to open it in your default browser. Building and embedding a browser on this level that could reliably handle any kind of webpage thrown at it would be a lot of work and is just out of scope for Scrivener.

If you’re on 10.11, you might take advantage of the new split screen to run Scrivener and Safari side by side, or just arrange the windows so you can work on the project while also performing your online research. You could also try using the Scratch Pad as a temporary place for pasting your notes as you work in Safari, and then bring it all into your project once you’ve finished that session of research.

Thanks for the answer. All clear!
Maybe is not a disadvantage to not be able to go live on the internet and loosing your mind on searches etc.: so you remain concentrated on your writing!
Thanks and have a nice day.