How to get headers in rtf?


I’ve just upgraded to 2.0, and it’s lovely, particularly the freeform corkboard and new options for export :slight_smile: But I am having a little difficulty getting headers to work with rtf. Here’s what I’m doing:

  1. file… compile
  2. click page settings and put random text into the middle box of the header.
  3. using the “compile for” box I set it to rtf (word)
  4. compile and save the file
  5. open the file in pages, do view … show layout. There’s a space for header text but no actual text.

alternatively, if I compile to pdf and save the pdf I do see headers.

Could someone please point out what I’m doing wrong?

You’re opening it in Pages. :slight_smile: Unfortunately Pages has very bad RTF support. If you open it in Word, Nisus Writer, OpenOffice Mellel or any other word processor that properly supports the RTF format, you will see the headers (Pages also drops footnotes, comments, images and page breaks from RTf files).

All the best,

… and you’re absolutely correct. I’ve just tried Word and it all works fine

That’s very disappointing about Pages, but thank you so much for the speedy response. As well as the fact that scrivener is brilliant, your support for customers is wonderful :slight_smile:

Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated!

By the way, you can leave feedback and ask Apple for better RTF support here:

It’s a bit of a Catch-22 situation. Pages has great .doc and .docx support, but Scrivener doesn’t (because it uses the standard Apple exporters, which are different to the ones Pages uses), but Pages has poor RTF support. (The .pages format is private so no one can use that except Apple.) And I don’t have the resources to implement my own .doc and .docx importers and exporters. So this means that Scrivener works really well with almost all word processors… Except Pages. If Apple improved the RTF import and export, everything would be good. Moreover, I added support for headers, footers, images, footnotes and comments to the standard RTF translators myself (RTF is a plain text format “under the hood”, so this is possible for RTF but not for .doc or .docx) - so if I can do this, it should be a doddle for Apple. I’m hoping that if enough people ask them for improved RTF support, they might implement it for Pages '11. I’m not holding my breath though.

Thanks again and all the best,

Yes, Pages is really annoying for that, but I just hate Word (which I have not upgraded since Office X…might not help : p ) so when I work on large documents such as my Thesis chapters, I export to RTF, open in Word, save as .doc and reopen in Pages. For now that do the trick but let’s hope that Apple will hear us for iWork 11.