Is there any news on the new app?

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Patrick Kelly

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I read a post when L&L first introduced the study group. But my guess is independent from that, and is a responce to the market trend towards such tools. One of the great advantages with network based tools is easier collaboration and distribution as cloud storage is the default situation and is supported native by the whole network stack upon which such apps are built. Much criticism of Scrivener surrounds its lack of support for collaboration, for permissions, and multiuser revisioning on shared projects. The other advantage for L&L (and disadvantage for users) of a network based app is a subscription revenue model. I hate subscription services!

Once an app has saturated its target market, many companies fail. I fear that Scrivener has been on this downward trejectory for a while now. Then, when you fold in the resources being pulled from Scrivener, and towards a new app, the situation can only get worse for Scrivener users. Sad because I really love Scrivener, and had the corporate direction instead been to steadily evolve Scrivener to meet its full market potential, and the needs of writers in all fields (not just soft sci-fi fantasy fiction writers), I believe that Scrivener could have a strong dominant future as the go-to writing environment for all.

We will see, but yes, I do believe that this new L&L writing tool will be an attempt to compete against other Web and Subscription based writing tools, with a simplified and less robust UI and with a simplified and less customizable output (compile) suite perhaps with direct publishing to ebook venues and even to pay-to-publish printers and traditional imprint houses.

Moving forward, I hope L&L honors those of us who use and champion Scrivener, those of us who have already invested our time and money in the Scrivener platform. I hope L&L provides a pay once and done ownership buy-in for any new products they introduce. I hope that L&L offers tight live back and forth integration of Scrivener with any new products. My hope is that any network writing app L&L introduces works just as well off-line as it does on-line.

Randall

We will see. Would be good if the new app offered the advantages of a web app (easy and automated cloud storage, work on projects from any device, always using the latest code, protected private muti-user, permissions based, collaboration, one step publication (and real time revisioning) to multiple protocols and venues) along with the advantages of a traditional off-line app. This whole incompatibility with iCloud thing must be fixed once and for all.

It’s no secret that this new app will have separate desktop/iOS implementations. (Separate betas for Mac, iOS, Win)

If L&L were building a “network” app, wouldn’t it be browser-based?

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And just what evidence do you have to support this statement, or was it simply pulled from thin air, or your a.s?

Keith and staff have said the new app is NOT a network writing app. Keith and staff have also clearly stated their opposition to subscriptions.

For anyone who read Keith’s statements and those of senior support staff on this forum, I think the only logical response to your suppositions is CODSWALLOP!

No need to run around like headless chooks, and the sky is NOT falling!

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Again, almost every statement in your post is incorrect, and I say this as someone who does have direct knowledge of the new app.

In any case, this wild speculation is far from the original topic of the thread. Accordingly, I’m closing the thread.

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