Sorry to post twice in one day but I wondered if this is useful in any way: I just installed Scrivener on someone else’s laptop running Sonoma and there is no lag.
This is my laptop that suffers from the lag: MacBook Air 13-inch, 2019, 1.6GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5, Intel UHD Graphics 617 1536 MB, Memory 16GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3, Sonoma 14.7 (the lag happened in 14.6.1 as well)
My friend’s laptop is a MacBook Air 13-inch 2020, 1.1 GHz Quad Core Intel i5, Intel Iris Plus 1536 MB, 8GB 3733 MHz LPDDR4X running Sonoma 14.6.1
Yes, I’m finding it almost unusable when trying to edit.
I installed an older version of Scrivener, but I’m not sure it’s much better.
I’ve been forced to dig out my 2013 MacBook Air to work on!
It runs Scrivener but nothing else, so I have to have two laptops running side by side.
It’s been going on for almost a year now.
I’m wondering if that’s the key. Some users never experience this problem across a variety of devices / OS versions, others suffer badly. But what do those have in common?
As I understand it, the Scrivener team understand the issue, but have said it is Apple’s problem with their update in Sonoma OS.
What I was wondering was if the Scrivener team had any information on whether Apple might be moving to fix this, or whether the Scrivener team were considering finding a workaround.
If neither party is looking to fix it, then it would give us a better idea of how to proceed.
As you can see from the video I posted, the current version is pretty broken:
Yeah, that would drive me crazy, too. But (as far as I can tell from the grainy footage), that’s a quite lengthy single document. When I have to scroll that much, it’s usually in Scrivenings mode across many sub-documents. Hmmm.
I was just trying to show that each scroll animation plays out in its entirety and blocks any further interaction until it has completed. That’s why the screen jumps around for ages after I stop scrolling; it’s still busy playing out all the earlier scroll animations.
When I switch into the fullscreen mode at the end, the scrolling works perfectly on the same piece of text.
It’s not the length of the text that’s the problem for me, it’s the scroll animation not being overridden by new input from the touchpad.
The length of the text may not be a problem for you, but for Apple’s text engine under certain conditions. So, just in theory, if you would chop up a copy of this long document, and the problem persists – that could prove that I’m completely wrong. (On the other hand, if the situation improves, there’s the annoying workaround.)
fwiw, I’ve never seen this behaviour, and I spend almost every day, all day, in Scrivener. My writing machine is a base M2 Air, and I use both trackpad and wired mouse. I mostly work with two projects open full-screen – one reference – but often open one or two other projects non-full-screen simultaneously.
My reference project is >1,000,000 words, and the search results are more often than not very large scrivenings. If I were experiencing the problem detailed in this thread I would be complaining very loudly too.
I’m still on Sonoma – latest macOS and Scrivener.
There’s clearly something going on, but it’s not across the piece.
Since it’s not been suggested, if you are experiencing this issue, it might be worth creating a new account and trying Scrivener in that. This would at least determine whether the problem is related to you main user account rather than macOS or Scrivener.
A dev who responded to this thread with an M2 machine said the problem was not apparent.
On my M1 machine it’s super laggy. However it’s not as if the machine isn’t fast enough to handle proper scrolling. I used older versions of Scrivener just fine on a 15-year-old Macbook. I’ve never seen this issue with any other text-based program.
If you’re having this problem please consider posting about it to @ScrivenerApp at x.com to help get it attention. After almost 11 months this thread doesn’t appear to be motivating anyone to address the issue.
OMG, thank you so much for suggesting this. I created a new account and tried one of my largest Scrivener projects there. NO LAG!! So the problem is in fact related to the main user account for me. Not sure what that means or whether it can lead to a solution, but it’s a start. @ighulme have you tried this?
At first look, running Scrivener in a fresh account does seem to be working.
But I’ve also found that I can get it sort of working in the original account if there’s only one project open and I change the editor zoom by varying amounts for different projects. It all seems a bit random really.
EDIT: After further tests I ended up with the same error, as well as all the text disappearing and lines randomly appearing when scrolling.
is it certain Apple even knows the problem exists? The last I heard the Scrivener representative, if I understood the reply correctly, didn’t appear to think this bug significant enough to bring it to Apple’s attention.
Another clue that I don’t think has been mentioned before (forgive me if it has already been pointed out) is that the scrolling lag does not appear in imported PDFs or web pages.
Also still suffering here. Is there any way to hold two documents in composition mode? I have been copying one in the inspector notes but long ones sometimes get messed up when I highlight sections to copy and paste.
the rep said “it is not [Apple’s] role to hear about every bug we come across” which to me suggests the rep did not consider the bug important enough to report to Apple.
