Layouts do not work as expected

I work mainly with two saved layouts.

  1. binder and editor on the right side.
  2. dual navigation, like this

When I switch from 2 to 1, unfortunately nothing is displayed as saved. The size of the windows is not correct, the second “editor” appears in layout 1 under the “real” editor and everything else is not correct either. Is this a bug or is it just me that has this problem? Thanks :slightly_smiling_face:

I believe most of these issues can be chalked up to how the “Dual Navigation” layout, that is in the software, isn’t actually a layout. It uses a completely different approach to changing how the window works, and does things layouts cannot do (like messing with the Copyholder setup). So when using a layout to leave that mode, it can’t actually undo everything it does, specifically removing the copyholder.

There is a shortcut for closing it though, by the way: the Editor Layout ▸ Close Copyholder menu command (⌥⌘-).

Thank you @AmberV. I guess it’s like you say. “Dual Navigation” is not a real layout. Actually, it’s not even necessary for me to switch back and forth between these two layouts. “Dual Navigation” with or without the inspector provides everything I need. :slightly_smiling_face:

BTW, what would be nice … I do not know exactly what it is called … a kind of clone of the same project. That would allow to display different layouts of one project at the same time (side by side). As is now possible with two different projects.

Do you mean… multiple project windows? I don’t see how one single window could simultaneously have multiple layouts at once, otherwise.

What I mean is what the free app MacJournal offers in the menu “windows” as “Clone”.

This is what a MacJournal project window looks like. It is similar in structure to Scrivener. This project can be cloned. That means, everything that is done/changed in the clone, is also changed in the original, and vice versa. But the clone can have a different layout, display different documents, with or without displaying binder, outliner, inspector … whatever you want.

If you want to try this yourself, look here.

I’m not saying that Scrivener necessarily needs this. I’m just saying that it’s an interesting feature. :slightly_smiling_face:

Okay, yeah that is interesting. Kind of like it has multiple UI files. I think I like something more like Layouts, personally, as you can apply them to multiple things rather than having to redo all of your setup for each thing you make. But for something like MacJournal where one tends to only have one “thing”, one repository in total, that is less of a problem.

@AmberV I underestimated the “Dual Navigation” “Layout” until now, because I didn’t realize what I could do with it.

Theoretically, I could display the entire content of the binder … in … what is the name of this window … let’s say, “second binder”. Is that right?

If I did it as below. How can I remove only folder B? Or only Doc 2 in folder B? And how do I add a third folder without removing A and B? Thanks for your help :slightly_smiling_face:

I think what you’re calling a “second Binder” is actually an Outline view. It’s fully documented in the manual (Section 8.3), but the short answer is that it allows you to edit the structure in all the same ways that the Binder does.

Yes, you are right. Meanwhile, I have noticed that myself. Thanks :slightly_smiling_face: