OPML export from OmniOutliner to Scrivener gives headings on

I created a document with OmniOutliner, exported that to OPML and then imported that into Scrivener. But instead of showing body text, everything imported shows as headings and subheadings.

I’m a newbie at this, what I done wrong?

Thanks for help

Note: Output from OmniOutliner works fine with word documents - so it’s a problem with Scrivener settings I assume?

As far as I’m aware, that’s just how it works. In Word, all your outline in in one document. In Scrivener, your Omni outline becomes your Scrivener outline. The outline title = binder title, notes = synopsis. As far as I’m aware, there’s no way to go directly to the text with your Omni outliner notes.

But you can select multiple files in the binder and go to Documents->Append Synopsis to Main Text. That should do it, but in the process you will lose any formatting (you can’t bold or underline in the synopsis).

Edit: I shouldn’t give advice without actually looking at the software first. :unamused: Go to Scrivener->Preferences->Import/Export. Near the bottom, OMPL: Import notes into… gives you the choice of where to put the notes.


I’m wondering if I shouldn’t do the outlining in Scrivener to start with. I’ll play with the options

Of course you should. Scrivener is the best outliner available. :laughing:

If you expect your outline notes to go directly into the body of the associated document, then I don’t see a huge advantage, especially in light of the option I found in the Import/Export preferences. I mean, it is pretty easy to copy from Synopsis to body text, but Synopses are plain text only, so aren’t suitable if you need bold, underline, italics, strikethrough, etc…

Omni Outliner is a stellar outlining app with a number of features that are hard to beat.
Scrivener contains within itself a wealth of features, many of which can be taken advantage of in the outline view, but its flexibility makes Scrivener’s outliner merely superb. So really, it depends on how deeply you are into OO’s features during the majority of your outlining phase on any given project.

OO misses even in its current, 4th incarnation a feature I consider essential for an outliner, and that is: filtering. The ability to show only certain elements based on conditions (for example, “show all entries where column ‘POV’ contains ‘Jim’”). Scrivener manages this easily.

I experimented a bit with OmniOutliner 2 on an iPad… to Scrivener for Windows.

It appears that if tell OmniOutliner to output/export as OPML, only material from the first column is included. That can include multiple levels of items and their notes, all of which are in the first column.

When do a File > Import > OPML or Mindmap… of such an OPML (emailed from OmniOutliner on the iPad), the following options have the following results:

  • With “Synopsis” or “Notes (with Synopsis)”, brings in items and brings notes in as item Synopsis text.
  • With “Main Text (with Synopsis)”, brings in items and brings notes in as both item text and item Synopsis text.
  • With “Titles only”, brings in only items.

OmniOutliner can output/export in other formats ( .csv, .docx, .xls, .html, …) that do include contents of more than just the first column, but I haven’t experimented much with that…

So… not automagical and perhaps not lending itself to routinely passing back and forth between OmniOutliner and Scrivener multiple times… but there appears to be some capability there at least for a one time OmniOutliner to Scrivener transfer, provided one is prepared to do some work.

P.S. Which also led me to wonder… just how much text can one stuff into a Scrivener binder item’s name… Appears to be quite a bit … Probably more than is practical to work with… :slight_smile:

I’ve now played around with a number of outliners (and NeO Outliner itunes.apple.com/gb/app/neo/id408150634?mt=12 is very good at a fraction of the cost of OmniOutliner). I’ve come back to using Scrivener and it’s working out very well as the outliner I need. It’s an outstanding piece of software but there’s a lot to learn to get the best out of it.