Page break / Separators Settings

Hello everyone.

I’m compiling my book into .PDF and I’m trying to make a page break within the same scene, but I’m not succeeding.
I’ve tried following what it says in the Help, and doing it directly in the text with the combination of Win + Alt + Return, but it doesn’t work; I’ve tried through the Separators settings, but I can’t do it either.
I’m sure I’m doing something wrong, or I’m missing something, but I’m not a native English speaker, and I’m really not getting it, not even through the manuals.
Can someone give me a hand? Please?


Try inserting it through the menus.
Insert / Break / Page Break

It is invisible, by the way. So unless you toggle Show Invisibles you won’t see it. But it’ll be there.
And it should work.

Hello Vincent_Vincent.

Thanks, but it doesn’t work.
I send the screenshot in “Show Invisibles” mode and the break it’s there.
However, there really must be something wrong with my document because it doesn’t break the printed page.
I think it must be in the “Separators Settings”, but no matter how hard I try, I can’t get it right.

It is not in the Separator settings, but I don’t know where the issue comes from. (yet?)

You should try a compile with no change whatsoever, but this time to RTF.
See if it comes out right.


Thank you again but I’ve tried .rtf and .docx, but in both cases the result is the same.

Ok. (We’re proceeding by elimination.)

Just to be clear, when you say

…is that a single document ?
Or are you unable to have a page break between two specific documents ?

[EDIT] This may sound like a stupid question but… when you inserted a page-break in your document, could it be by any chance that you’ve mistakenly rather inserted a line-break ?
A page break shows as a line across, a line break is a downward 90 degree turn left.

No, it’s in a scene, or in another way, on a page.

I wanted there to be an interruption at a certain point in a text, without changing the scene (another file in Binder), but moving on to the next page.
This is because I have the book broken up into small scenes so that I can have everything localized and separated when I need to make adjustments.
Now that the book is finished, I have to merge and put the parts together.
I want to have a very short table of contents and as I don’t know how to deal with that yet, in the eBook all the parts will be listed and that doesn’t make sense.


"Deu uma volta pela loja, parou por momentos diante de um ou outro ponto das prateleiras dos livros, agradeceu e saiu. "

==== Here a Jump to the next page without creating a new scene (another file in Binder) ====

“Pouco tempo passava em casa, onde se sentia asfixiar pelo ambiente de constante crispação entre ele a velha, e o que passava, permanecia fechado no seu quarto, o único espaço à sua medida e”

I hope I’ve made myself clear, but I suspect I won’t. :roll_eyes:

Yes yes. It is pretty clear.

Here is what I think you should do :

Insert a new document in your binder (you’ll delete it later.)

In this new document, type in a paragraph of gibberish.
Anything, it doesn’t have to make sense.
fkfdsjfsd fsdkjffsd ffjksdf sdljfds fjksd fsdjff dsfkfsjdkfjsd fjdsf dsjkf dsjfldsk fjfkdsjffkshjkddskljdfuiotureklj,.xcm,jkxfdsm,jfkdjf,fdskjfkdsjfls

Insert a page break, and then another paragraph of gibberish.

Assign this document to the same section type as the one which refuses to acknowledge the page break you’ve inserted, then compile.

Do you get a page break in the gibberish scene/document after compile ?

If you get a page break as you should, then it rules out the compile format as the source of the issue.
Which means that the problem is with your document itself.
Perhaps, if it is so, it got corrupted. (That’d be easy to fix.)

No. All the same.

Meanwhile, I’ve done a number of other experiments, but I think it’s something in my document, some kind of formatting, that’s wonky.

Such as ?
. . . . . . . . . .

Insert the page break immediately after the last character on the line; after a line break; between two line breaks.
But I finally realized something strange: the page break is making line breaks. Always.

. . . whether I do it via the Menu or via the Win + Alt + Return key combination

I don’t want to seem ungrateful Vincent_Vincent, you’re being really nice, but I have to sleep, it’s 3:48 a.m. here.
If your patience isn’t exhausted yet, I’ll continue in the morning, otherwise I’m grateful for the time you spent with me.

No worries.
It is a forum after all. There could be months inbetween. :wink:

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A practical example might be helpful at this point. I’ve attached a simple test project that demonstrates three different ways in which one might insert a page break. The first two methods result in the same output while the third method produces a result that looks more compact (however I don’t recommend using that method as it can introduce problems, which may in fact be what you are seeing). (138.0 KB)

I left a few paragraphs on the end of that test so you could insert a page break that matches how you normally do it, if there is some method I didn’t think of. You can zip the modified sample project in File Explorer and drag the .zip into a response here so we can take a look at it.

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Thank you AmberV.

In your example, I used the first two methods you suggested and it worked perfectly.
Then I moved on to my document and, doing exactly the same, the page break results in a line break.

I’d like to send you a page from my book so you can check, but I don’t know how to do that :roll_eyes:.

[Best to make sure you properly backup your original project before engaging in any of this below.]

There is a possibility that the problem is caused by another document than the one that is misbehaving.

So if you don’t mind the (trustable) staff from LL to have access to your whole project, I’d say do a save as version of your project with an explicit title, such as “PageBreakIssue”.
In that new version, retitle the problematic document “PROBLEM”.
(It would be a good idea to also save your current compile format (if custom) in the project. – When you edit a compile format it asks where to save it, at the top, just below its title. You’d want it saved as a “Project formats”.)
Do a zipped backup of this version of your project while the faulty document is the one selected in the binder so that’s what they’ll first see, and send this zipped backup file to them through the website. (I’ll put the link at the bottom.)

In the message, link to this forum thread as it contains information as to what was tried and failed.

Once done, restore your compile format’s location in the “My formats” if you had to move it earlier, then delete the new version of the project from your computer to avoid future accidental confusion. (Make sure you don’t delete the real version of your project. :wink: – And it wouldn’t hurt to keep it in your trash bin for a couple of days, just in case.)

. . . . . . . . .

You’ll have to email them since you’ll have an attachment. The email address is at the bottom of the webpage.
Don’t use the online form.

. . . . . . . .
If you don’t want to send them the whole project or want to scramble it first (understandable), then I’ll let them instruct you on what to do. Disregard all of the above.


Yeah in addition to the good advice above, a way you could send a more targeted test is to open both the sample project I made and your main project, and then drag and drop the section with the break in it into the binder of the sample project.

After doing that, compile in that test project and make sure the page break still turns into an empty line. If it does, you can then zip it up and send it. Since at that point it might contain information you don’t want to share publicly, click on my avatar to the top left, and then the “Message” button, to start a private conversation.

But if it does come out as a page break in the sample project, then I agree with everything @Vincent_Vincent had to advise, it’s probably a configuration issue that involves project or compile settings, and a more complete sample may be necessary for us to see the problem. I’m trying to think of anything that might do what you’re describing and having a hard time though. The only thing I know for sure is that page breaks do nothing in some types of files (like ePub and HTML) because they are kind of meaningless in that context. But for PDF and RTF I’m not thinking of anything intentional that would strip them out, so it could be a bug (like the one I linked you to).


Ok, I started by doing the test you suggested, ÂmbarV.

I moved your file to my project, compiled it just to confirm that the page break doesn’t work there. I repeated the compilation of it alone and it works, confirming that the problem is in my document.

Now I’ll make sure I clearly interpret your instructions* Vicente_Vincent and do what you suggest, in order to send the file.

*(As I told you, I’m not a native English speaker and translators sometimes just add confusion. But I’ll be able to do it.) :face_with_monocle:

I think you ran Amber’s test backwards.
You were supposed to move your faulty document in Amber’s project. Not the other way around.

Se você quiser mencionar alguém no fórum, não precisa fazê -lo manualmente. Você pode apenas digitar @ e escrever as primeiras letras, uma lista aparecerá.

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