Please, release a native version for Linux again

Well, here in Europe, more and more people and companies are leaving Windows behind to get more “autonomous” through European alternatives and Linux is a great option for that.

Lenovo and other brands also offer pre-installed Linux on their products since a year or so. Perhaps there’s hope just yet.

That ‘more and more’ still equates to less than 5% market penetration. Add to that, most of the Linux devotees I know also refuse to pay for apps, so what does that make the available ‘market’? 2%, 3%?

That said, from memory the L&L team have said market size doesn’t necessarily determine what versions they may release, and QT which is used to develop the Win version is Linux compatible.

They do seem to have their hands very full with current projects, so I wouldn’t suggest holding your breath.

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L&L’s reason for abandoning Linux was that it was too difficult to keep up with all the different Linux platforms. This decision pre-dated Snap and AppImage. Those two technologies solve the problem. I don’t know why L&L doesn’t create a Snap or an AppImage version of Scrivener.

I think that’s already been answered, and recently:

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Perhaps nowadays, they could choose one distro and support that? Like Lenovo offers Ubuntu pre-installed on their laptops (maybe desktops too?). I’m not sure which distro is the most popular, or which one is considered the best. But if they just choose one, then there is at least one that is supported :stuck_out_tongue:

Lutris has automated the wine installation. They also totally messed up their most recent upgrade, so we’re all trying to figure out how to make it work again, but as frustrating as that is, it’s just a matter of time. Linux users find a way, eventually.

I don’t know the tech, but the fact is we’re a tiny group of users, and the effort to export it to us is evidently not with the return on our purchases. Simple as that, AFAICT.

I don’t know why L&L couldn’t just issue a Snap or AppImage file. This would cover all distributions–maybe not BSD, which isn’t a distribution anyway.

Even if there were only a 100 users, that’s 100 sales.

So let me guess: there’s no Linux developer. Why not try vibecoding then?

If they decide to support Ubuntu then Arch users will whine, and if they add Arch Red Hat users will cry and you’re back to the original reason to stop Linux support. The simple answer is a Snap or an Apoimage package. These are (nearly) universal and work on all (nearly) distributions.

Why add unnecessary complexity when a Snap or Appimage would do?

Does it need to be said that Scrivener over Lutris (or Play on Linux) running on Wine on Linux is hardly a “native” Linux application? Whereas Snap or AppImage…

I would suggest scrolling up to my message and reading the actual reasons involved. :slight_smile: It has nothing to do with packaging (I would imagine we would probably make a .deb and .appimage available, if we get to that point in the first place), all of this is a red herring.

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Even if there were only a 100 users, that’s 100 sales.

I think you’re assuming that 100 users will actually, stick their hands in their pockets.

For example, how many Mint users actually pay for their OS to support it? As a percentage? I’m willing to be it’s a small fraction because a lot of Linux users expect their software to be free or open source.

Oh bless, I don’t see how this can be marked offensive, it’s quite clearly stating a legitimate viewpoint.

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Mint is free, Ubuntu is free. Scrivener is not. If 100 Mint users want to use a proprietary program such as Scrivener, they know they have to pay to do so. I can remember when Scrivener was Mac only. If you wanted to run the prorram you had to pay the Apple tax. There came a time when a Windows version was developed and the Linux version abandoned. The given reason for the latter was the difficulty in supporting all the different Linux distributions. My point is that this is no longer a problem because of Snap and AppImage technologies. Both of these technologies are distribution agnostic.

We’d all like a native instance. We don’t have one. [inaccurate claim removed] It does run on Wine/Lutris. Use it or don’t.

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I’m not sure where that sentiment is coming from. My response at the top of this thread remains true, though, and should indicate that it’s not through lack of interest, or something worth considering permanently ruled out. That said, one should of course make do, as I do, and get it running using the existing means of doing so.

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I misread you then? My sense from your post was that it is on the to-do list, but it’s way far down, so we shouldn’t hold our breath.

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I obviously don’t claim to speak for L&L, but that wouldn’t even pay for a single person’s work for a single day.

Don’t for the life of me understand why @synapse56 post was flagged as it was not offensive in any way, but…

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Ah, the mythical ‘Apple Tax’.

  1. IBM and CISCO publicly have stated Macs have a lower TCO than quality Win machines.

  2. Check a MacBook Air against similar Dell, ACER, MS laptops. The Mac is roughly the same price and if you want the same screen resolution and similar performance on the above Win devices the Win device is more expensive. Add the that the Air will run all day and beyond off power.

    There are ample valid reasons why a person might prefer one platform over the other, but that ‘Apple Tax’ was debunked years ago.

    Not that this has anything to do with why a person might want to run Linux. ‘I have friends’ who choose to run Linux on very old (10-14yr old) Macs because they are still solid hardware with years left in them, but not compatible with more recent versions of MacOS and many apps. I even run Linux on a 12yr old Mac :scream: .

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Thank you RuffPub, appreciate it. I have queried why my post - which contained legitimate questions - was marked as offensive. Is it because I hit the nail on the head in terms of people paying for software I wonder?

Also, if the people who marked my post offensive actually read previous posts, they’d see I’m a Linux user, running Scrivener and “the app that can’t be named” on Mint Linux.

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