Project Targets - not working

I use Scrivener on Mac and Project Targets aren’t working.

  1. It doesn’t count any of the words that I’ve copied and pasted into the program from a Word Doc.
  2. It doesn’t allow me to choose “writing days” in the “options” part.

How can I fix this? Or is this a bug that needs to be fixed in the next Scrivener update?

Hi,

Make sure that those documents are set to be included in compile. (Or uncheck the second option from the screenshot below – I don’t recommend, though.)
And make sure to have the first option unchecked (else, set your compiler properly) :
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Personally, as I constantly change what is to be compiled (most of the time I compile my binder’s selection, for print) the above setup is what I find to be optimal. (I mean the first two options ; never mind the overrun, as how it is currently set in this demo project just makes no real sense — I noticed too late.)
First option unchecked, second one checked.

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It does only when these two options are checked :
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Thanks for getting back to me, Vincent. I appreciate it.

It still isn’t counting the words I copied and pasted, and I can confirm the document is included in the compile. I’ve written almost 700 words today but it’s stuck on 24. Is there another setting that might be affected? (I tried to include a screenshot here but the forum won’t let me.)

My other issue with choosing the writing days is now fixed, thank you.

That’s what you’d likely get from the first option being checked. Make sure it isn’t.
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Also, make sure that the concerned documents ARE in the manuscript/draft folder. That they don’t only look like they are in it, by being right underneath it, and not inside it. (Depending on your target’s settings, that may matter.)
Use the arrow to collapse your draft/manuscript folder.
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Whatever you still can see after, is NOT inside it. (As it should be — inside —, as far as the body text to be compiled is concerned.)

Hi Vincent,

Confirming the first option is not checked.
Confirming the documents are included in the manuscript.

The words are being counted in my total manuscript, but they aren’t being counted for today’s word targets, even though I wrote them today.

Well, it could be a number of things. It is hard to know without seeing anything (you’ll be able to post screenshots after a while).

Meanwhile, have a look see if you can track your numbers in the Writing history instead.

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Or try this :
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But that will count everything, regardless of whether you intend to compile it in the final or not.

(And keep in mind that words that you delete count as a minus, too.)

I had a look in the writing history section and I think there’s a clue there. It’s counted my words as “other” instead of in the draft.

Even though if you have a look in my compile section, the chapter is included in the compile (the words that aren’t showing up are in “Chapter 2”.

(I’ve just tested to see if I can send you a screenshot, and I’m still not able to, so hopefully my description is clearn enough.)

The document you typed or pasted to is not in the draft/manuscript folder.

Do the collapse test I mentionned earlier.

It is in the draft folder, I’ll wait until I have screenshot access to show you.

What if you add words to it now?

I’m not sure, but I think that if it wasn’t at the time, history will keep reporting those words as in “others”. (The old ones, I mean.)

Or try a new document that you are absolutely sure is in the master folder. As in, create it while the manuscript/draft/master folder is selected. Then type gibberish in it.

Any chance you were actually typing in the notes or synopsis panel earlier?

Hi Vincent,

It counts the words I type into the document, but none of the words I’ve pasted into the document. (The copied words came from another Scrivener file not a Word Doc as I said in my initial email.)

If you cut then paste, you actually minus, plus = 0

Else a simple duplicating paste should be counted just as typed words.

Perhaps try -Paste and Match Style- (that will strip the clipboard content of its formatting and all) instead of normal paste. Maybe something is interfering, from Word.

I’ve upped your trust level to allow you to post screenshots.

The section in the manual on the Session statistics counter explains what is and isn’t counted:

If you delete lots of text, session statistics will not start showing any progress until you have written as much again—it is perfectly possible to have a negative session word or character count! In other words, it shows your net gain dur- ing the session. Additionally, the session target only counts text that has been typed or pasted into a main text area, it does not count imported documents, duplicated sections, appended text and so forth. The basic rule of thumb is that if what you did to add or remove text was done inside of the text editor, then it will be added or subtracted from the count. If you used menu commands to move, generate, duplicate or copy text then it will not be counted.

Then further down it explains what the different options do.

Thank you anyway but none of the above explains the bug.

My own solution: I ended up just cutting the copy I’d written earlier, and then pasting it again, and it counted the words. I didn’t even remove formatting.

As I said, likely the doc was elsewhere at the time. Initially. Or excluded from compile. Or what else, perhaps, I’m not thinking of. (Just not matching the stats requirement to give what you expected then.)

You should be fine from now on. :wink: