Screenwriter Desire

Now how close - and how desirable for screenwriters, are these functions?

It’s a Windows only app - but the ideas…


I have to say that I can’t see anything there that you can’t already do in Scrivener, Final Draft, Montage or various others… Am I missing something, or are you a closet Windows person. :smiley:

Mr. B.

This was uncalled for. You should apologize. To disparage a fine upstanding person like our good Lord here is a potential cause for eternal damnation.

:blush: Okay, I apologise. :slight_smile: Though I think Mr LL has been around long enough to know when I have my tongue planted firmly in my cheek.

(I’m eternally damned anyway, and not too concerned about the matter.)

As I’m sure LL will know, all I really meant was, as lovely as this software looks, what does it do that other software doesn’t?


As long as it is planted in YOUR cheek and no one else’s (maybe the better half’s is OK). As you must realize Mrs told me that I must use my cheek as she did not appreciate my plan.

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I’m with you btw. But then I don’t really know anything about writing. I’m sure that is obvious to everyone here. :confused:

IMHO, the most desirable functions for professional screenwriting that Scrivener lacks are (in order of importance):

(1) Page break indicator with page length control.
It’s vital to know the length of your scenes and sequences as you write and edit them. This is peculiar to professional screenwriting, which can be much more structured and specific than other kinds of fiction writing.

(2) Round-trip to FD, MMS
Already being addressed.

(3) On-the-fly Character Name Database like FD, MMS, NM, etc. etc.
This is ubiquitous in other programs that cater to screenwriters. Lacking it slows down the writing process in Scrivener.

(4) On-the-fly Slugline Database
As above, but for sluglines. Scrivener has manual versions, but automated, on-the-fly functionality make it much easier and faster to write a screenplay.

Scrivener is such a delightful program, that I will continue to use it and recommend it to other screenwriters, despite the slowdowns and inconveniences it adds to my process. If these functions were added, it would only make a wonderful program even better for professional screenwriters.

Yes I can see where the misunderstanding could arise. I only wanted to get a refocus on Scrivener as a Screenwritng app - because it is still the best writing app there is. My approach was simply to get Keith to ponder whether or not Scrivener might benefit from taking note of the uncomplicated slug lines. I would use them either as plot points or beats - with the option to convert them to proper slug lines/ scene headers as needed.

I do that now using Scrivener’s binder - chapters… well you know the deal. But it is not IN the screenwriting mode. I have to flit in and out of screenwriting mode.

None of the dedicated apps quite get the use of ‘beats’ and plot points… Yet. It is an opportunity to head them off at the pass. Beats are also used in novels. I guess the closest you can get to the concept in Scrivener is by thinking Outline.

Just running an idea up the flag pole of ideas. It might get a salute - it might not.


…mlud, Capn Keef can be bribed wiv lottsa cheese puffs…I fink :confused:


An Achilles taste bud - Ah!

Thanks for the tip vic-k.


I’d echo everything LL has just said, including the ‘Scrivener’s so good I use it anyway’ line.

I suspect that doing the formatting stuff isn’t the hard bit of constructing screenwriting apps, after all it’s easy enough to knock up template in any wordprocessor. Integrating the database and getting the importing and exporting stuff seems to be harder, which is a shame because in a lot of ways, it’s more important.

Mostly only doctoring, at this end, but all the same there’s stuff I ::hate:: when screenwriting programs get too clever for their own good. Or my own good. I hate it when they think they know better than me about TOD. I hate it that NONE of them know about what a Shot is and confuse it with some kind of Angle on: or cutaway and offer me “RESUME ON” blah blah as the main option, followed by BACK TO SCENE:, neither of which I have ever used.

But I agree about sluglines and character names.

And I hate it that the Big Shot screenwriting apps don’t know about subdivisions in sluglines and think that BORK’S HOUSE - KITCHEN and BORK’S HOUSE - BEDROOM 1 are different things… and then tell me that I should have BORK’S KITCHEN and BORK’S BEDROOM if I want them to play nicely. I don’t have to play nicely with them; they have to play nicely with me.

My point, of course, is…


as clear as moonlight on bywater

Even I can’t work out what I was talking about up there. Must’ve been a bad day. Time for my pill.

So what! Moonlight on Bywater is still inspirational! 8)