Scriv 3, the Forum and the new 'Flatter' look

My beloved father in law, Gnaeus Julius Agricola, remarked only the other day that the English whom he found difficult to subdue, still exhibit the characteristics of an Island race with a noted antipathy towards us Europeans . Indeed even now some still enquire as to what the Europeans provided for their greater advancement, comfort and security.

How little has changed since I completed my Annals, with their account of the devious nature of politicians and their desire for advancement to the exclusion of all else. Indeed some of your Orators , one especially who can quote the noble Cicero indulge in political deceit that would disgrace a Roman Senator.

The two that I did notice were what appear to be the default icons for the Binder and the Research folder, neither of which are in my Scriv icon folder.
Don’t know if Support are monitoring this but I would like to know if the new set are tiff files rather than the png of the earlier ones. I would have thought the new fonts folder might have overwritten the old, but possibly not, in case anyone had their own custom ones in there.

I’m not quite clear on what the problem is, sorry to say. Are you saying that you have an old Research folder icon in your binder? The way they ought to look can be found on pg 88, figure 6.3. Are you seeing something else in your binder, and if so could you post a screenshot?

It’s not a problem as such and I think I can see what’s happened. The standard Binder and Reearch folder icons must be hardwired into the templates. Over the years - and I’ve used Scriv since around v1.7 - I’ve created a new default template from one that had custom icons and until now had no reason to notice the originals. The screen shot shows this: the left hand one is newly created from the default blank template, the one on the right has been created using my standard default which somewhere gained custom icons.
However, shouldn’t the default Binder/Research icons be in the ~/library/application support/scrivener/icons folder?
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That’s true. Those three root folders have always had hard-wired defaults that are not otherwise accessible as custom icons and are not located in any support folders. As you note though, you can override them and create your own templates.

Do you mean that you once had a custom icon applied to the draft folder (“Paper” here), and now it isn’t working? Do you have the original template from 2.x that I could examine to see if something when wrong with upgrading it?

That’s what I thought although it’s something I’d not realised until now despite being a long time user.

No it’s gone. With the advent of V3 I took the opportunity to have a clear out of some of the templates I’d amassed over the years, stuff I was never likely to use. What I use Scriv for is more or less the same, it’s simply the topic and length that’s different and I can add custom folders to suit. Any specific requirements by publishers style guides are taken care of in the final clean-up using Nisus Pro.

Thanks to all for the help.

Your mum’s dad always struck me as a bit of oik, to be honest. Came up here creating wastelands, then had the cheek to call it peace. Slaughtered poor old Galgacus’s mob just for pointing it out, too.

Of course, some of them down that London way fell for it – “Look at us, all Roman and civilised like” they said, poncing around in their new togas.

“Idque apud imperitos humanitas vocatur, sed pars servitutis sit, me old muckers” we told them.

Would they listen?

When you think about it, the Sasanaigh have been irritating their neighbours for millennia. If they hadn’t invented Scrivener, they’d be utterly irredeemable.

love the new look of Scriv 3, particularly composition mode. going to do some fiddling to try and make a “night mode” that looks like composition mode for the regular screen.

Hah – a plague on both your huts.

We Deceanglii sat around here minding our own business and worshipping the River Dee (Long May Her Waters Flow), when Tacitus’ lot came and built a fortress on it and started boasting about invading Hibernia. Then they buggered off up North to do a bit of Pict Palaver.

Slow down, we said. Stop rushing about. Have some cheese. Oh and you may want to put a bit more mortar in those walls – we’ll want to walk round them one day.

Bloody Romans.

What have they ever done for us?

My two cents is I like the new UI. I wear +3.0 magnification reading glasses and on digital I also increase all the fonts that I can so I am no 20/20 reader. That said most of the UI interface is symbols anyway and are easy to see. The exceptions are the paperclip (I had to put my face almost to the screen to make sure it was a paperclip) and the trash can - those are rather hard to see. But once you know where they are there isn’t really a further problem.

I have problems with depth perception so I can’t really see the flatter look. Found the default setting for the composition mode to be a strain, but that is what setting are for.

The forum font though is a little on the light side - a strainer that one.

You are an odd fellow.

The fact is, you British type people are a source of constant fascination to us Americans. I sometimes believe that I’m watching an ant farm being run by hobbits. You sound normal until the substance of your thesis becomes clear. Then, you transform into a weird mix of fantasy and history. Very strange.

I know. It’s a burden, but one which we try to bear cheerfully. At least it provides your Moving Picture industry with a ready made source of Villains and steady work for our Thespians.

Aye them down London now speak of a mighty awakening as Britannia loses her chains, throws off the yoke of European influence and once again faces the world. Indeed they speak of little else but to question what those Romans, and others of the European persuasion ever did for us. Let us be free they cry, that we may recreate the noble empire that surpassed even that of my illustrious ancestors.

They promise wealth and riches will flow freely even unto the poorest of the land.

Twas ever thus. As I write in my Annals, (copies available in many good charity shops) the delusions of our leaders are often a wonder to behold.

The forum definitely needs the opportunity to choose MUCH higher contrast. It’s very straining to read now. I’ve been lurking for years, finding good tips and tricks, and it’s always been a pleasure - but now it’s too much Javascript smooth scroll nonsense and low contrast fonts and colors to be enjoyable. It doesn’t even open properly in my browser of choice, Dillo.

The ability to choose plain black and white, and get rid of all the muted font color and background tints would be enough.

Fortis stabilisque! Brexitus brexitum significat…

Are you sure you can’t do an updated edition of the Annals?

Find the forum font hard to read, particularly the punctuation marks, and miss having pinch to zoom enabled by default (though I know how to override the site’s setting).

Think the site and forum are much improved in the main.

Agree strongly with the need for higher contrast or a strong black font. If the appearance was like the menu fonts list on the “post a reply” page it would be fine. At my age (probably not the oldest user of this forum) my eyes have a very hard time reading the material, so PLEASE MAKE THE FONT BLACK and/or BOLD.

Many thanks
Don

I am experiencing the same issues as several posting here. I’ve had the display increased contrast turned on for both Macs for a couple of years. My 75 year old eyes, even with the cataracts fixed and reading glasses, can’t tell the difference between a comma and a period unless I move to half my normal distance from the screen and use the highest magnification lenses in my tri-focals. It makes the forum tiring to read for more than a few minutes.

I spent some time fussing with backgrounds, fonts and font sizes and have ended up with a nice easy to use interface for Scrivener on my Macs. The only problem I have is the synopsis in the inspector is really tiny on this iMac 5K. I can read it, but barely. I haven’t been able to figure out a way to adjust the background color in the Inspector’s synopsis except in Composition Mode which I have never used. But that’s nothing new with S3, I had the same problem in S2. At my age, I’d make the argument that all the text on the screen should have a percentage adjust meant like the main editor to adjust it for aging eyes. I have the synopsis font set at 18 point so I can read it easily in outline mode. Unfortunately that doesn’t work in the inspector. The main editor is using 12 point Courier Final Draft @ 175%. With a light grey background to moderate the light, it works well. I have the binder with System Regular 18 point and bold folders with a customized background color.

I love the highlight for the focus line in the main editor. I wish it worked in outline mode.

Fitch

Whilst I agree with much of what has been said regarding the new flatter appearance, given the apparent impunity with which the trolls seem to be able to post spam, I suspect the new look is the least of the mods problems…