To be fair, I don’t think DaveK’s question of when has been answered, nor will it be in the beta forum. That’s not something we do. Some companies make public deadlines and then publish no matter what state the software is in. Others make soft deadlines and then miss them (because you always will) and suffer the backlash (we tried that once, never again!). Then there are those like ours that don’t publish a release date and work until the software is ready.
Our method isn’t very “marketing friendly” (i.e. “modern”), and it doesn’t really make anyone happy either, but we like to think it means we code to predictable quality, not calendar dates or Christmas rushes, or spreadsheet analysis of sales rates, etc. If that makes you uneasy, well there isn’t anything I can say that would fix that; I could only suggest you look at our track record. We do get the job done, even if it takes a good long while.