Does anyone know Wonderpen? The Chinese Scrivener. Is it just a coincidence that it looks exactly like Scrivener? I’m jealous of the Corkboard, which is called “Whiteboard” in Wonderpen and can really do a lot. Actually, it’s a built-in Scapple.
Topic moved. This is not a Scrivener support query.
If you’re looking for a worse Scrivener (with a “built-in Scapple”) and Electron apps don’t scare you… Why not just use Obsidian? Its (relatively) new “Canvas” functionality is really neat. IMHO an inferior writing environment, but great for knowledge management. And it’s free.
No, I would never want to replace Scrivener 
I find it … cheeky how Scrivener has been copied here. Even the terms are the same “snapshot”
The Chinese have been trying to rip-off Scrivener since Mac Version 1. It’s no coincidence at all.
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You are talking about a handful of developers in a universe of 1.3 billion people. I find this way of speaking to be offensive, and clearly racist.
It is not racist to suggest that the Chinese government’s enforcement of foreign intellectual property rights is sometimes inconsistent, or that developers (and others) sometimes seek to take advantage of that inconsistency.
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If you’d been a member of the forum around 2008, you would know that someone in China first tried to develop a copy of Scrivener for Windows—before LAP started developing Scrivener for Windows with an agreement with KB—and had the gall to advertise the fact on the forum.
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Two people from a former colonial power feel that it is fine to talk about the Chinese people, in general, as thieves. I find it very regrettable, but not surprising by any means.
@kewms, when you forget to refer to the government, and forget to mention intellectual property, and forget to mention inconsistencies, and you just say “The Chinese have been trying to rip-off Scrivener”. It very much is racism, ok? You are just white-washing.
Seeing that I am the only one uncomfortable here, I’m off.
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How do you know? You draw conclusions (probably the wrong ones) from the statements of only very few. It seems you are becoming the victim of your own accusations.
Actually, I just wanted to share that there is an app that looks very similar to Scrivener and has very similar features. I don’t care if it comes from China or the man in the moon.
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@fto, as far as I know, you never said “the Chinese have been trying to rip-off Scrivener” did you? I am not sure why you are replying as if you did. I actually appreciated the topic and downloaded Wondershare to take a look and discuss it here. It is clearly a rip-off. Even the shortcuts are the same.
The point is: there is no malicious generalization in what you wrote, which is not the case in the statement I quoted. In a forum of writers, it seems hard to get people to pay attention to words, which matter a lot. When someone talks about “the Chinese”, instead of the specific person that ripped off Scrivener, this is pure bigotry. It doesn’t matter if it is “the Chinese”, “the British”, “the Israelis”, or “the Brazilians”. Let us just don’t bloody generalize negative behaviors and characteristics like that, ok?
Bernardo, let’s deal with this calmly 
It’s perfectly clear what you mean. But you don’t seem to understand that you are guilty of what you accuse others of doing. You want people to pay attention to words, then please do the same
You know nothing about these people. But you blame the children for the sins of their grandparents.
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You probably already noticed it yourself…
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Both have UK as their current location. We know that much, don’t we?
If you said that it isn’t surprising that someone in China is ripping off Scrivener, because of the copywriter laws and such, that would be fine by me. There is no generalization of negative characteristics. You are using social facts to explain individual behavior, which may be valid or not.
Now, I said that two people living in a former colonial power are condoning language that I find racist and offensive, and that is not surprising. Well, they live in the UK. The UK is a former colonial power. I don’t think anyone living there is guilty of anything whatsoever. But, given England’s former colonial ties with no one other than China herself, no, I don’t find it surprising.
EDIT: By the way, I was intentionally mirroring the behavior when I talked about the place from where people were speaking, only in a different way. I thought that was obvious and needed no indication.
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I didn’t even mention China or Chinese people.
This is just how people talk. Everywhere. If I would say “the Chinese are building a base on the moon” – that doesn’t mean any sane person assumes that all 1,4 billion of them are doing it.
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Hi guys. What’s up? I’m writing a novel. 
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I brought them up in the section you quoted.
I understand your point. But doing this to talk about “ripping off”… Especially the writing software we all love here.
Yeah, but it is what it is. Sometimes such broad terms work in your favor, sometimes not so much. A few bad apples ruin it for everyone. Saying “because that’s what (all) Chinese always do, they just can’t help it!” – that would be a completely different beast. I don’t see this kind of malicious intent at play here.
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Let’s agree that no one meant to offend anyone
Back to the topic. This “whiteboard” in Wonderpen is really interesting. If a few Chinese can copy what a few British do, a few British can copy what a few Chinese do. That would only be fair. 
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The CCP encourages its citizens to rip off the IP of anything they can, be it commercial or military the Chinese rip it off. They are notorious for it so I am not sure why you take umbrage for a statement of fact.
Here is a SERP all abut China’s blatant IP theft.
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